Pacquiao vs. Marquez III - Saturday fight/chat thread

[Tam Seddon]

Casamayor one pound over the limit, he has an hour to lose the weight.

[superheavyrhun]

Casamayor one pound over the limit, he has an hour to lose the weight.

a F***ING POUND? I shit a pound...

[Tam Seddon]

Same Rhun

[Tam Seddon]

PAC 143
Marquez 142

[:::PSL:::]

[Mars_ax]

They both look ripped, consummate pros.

[Rantcatrat]

PAC 143
Marquez 142

Yes, and I bet they both don't gain much weight at all for the fight. I bet they walk in and at around the same weight for the fight.

[Rantcatrat]

I watched Pacquiao vs. Marquez II again and it really makes me wonder how part three won't be a good fight.

[Mars_ax]

I watched Pacquiao vs. Marquez II again and it really makes me wonder how part three won't be a good fight.

The Marquez we saw against Mayweather might be influencing some fans predictions about how he'll do against Pacquiao. Mayweather was much bigger then JMM and twice as skilled, and while Manny at this point in his career has a much better skill set, he and JMM are about the same size.

Although Pac and JMM are about the same size physically, which might lead you to believe that we might see something akin to Pacquiao vs. Marquez II, it ain't likely to happen. Pac will have a big advantage in speed, power and improved boxing ability, that I can't see Marquez being able to overcome.

I don't believe the 3rd fight between these two warriors will be anything like the first 2, since Pac vs JMM II, in 2008, Pacquiao has blitzed through, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley, hardly losing a round. So why is JMM going to be any different then the other 7? I hate to say a great fighter like JMM has no chance against Pacquiao, but he really doesn't.

[Rantcatrat]

I watched Pacquiao vs. Marquez II again and it really makes me wonder how part three won't be a good fight.

The Marquez we saw against Mayweather might be influencing some fans predictions about how he'll do against Pacquiao. Mayweather was much bigger then JMM and twice as skilled, and while Manny at this point in his career has a much better skill set, he and JMM are about the same size.

Although Pac and JMM are about the same size physically, which might lead you to believe that we might see something akin to Pacquiao vs. Marquez II, it ain't likely to happen. Pac will have a big advantage in speed, power and improved boxing ability, that I can't see Marquez being able to overcome.

I don't believe the 3rd fight between these two warriors will be anything like the first 2, since Pac vs JMM II, in 2008, Pacquiao has blitzed through, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley, hardly losing a round. So why is JMM going to be any different then the other 7? I hate to say a great fighter like JMM has no chance against Pacquiao, but he really doesn't.

Because Marquez has fought Pacquiao close twice before. None of those fighters had experience fighting Manny. I liked that Marquez weighed in at 142 and he appeared more ripped than he usually does. There isn't going to be a huge size disadvantage here. That is hogwash. They weighed in at 142 and 143 respectively. There always was a speed disparity favoring Pacquiao and that is nothing new. Timing beats speed and Marquez has Pacquiao timed. My opinion is the minority. Most are picking a Pacquiao landslide and Pacquiao finishes him early. Pacquiao started off fast in both their other fights so that may happen again here. If Marquez can survive the early rounds, I like Manny in another great fight, in which he wins a little bit more clearly. Say 116-112. I may change my opinion as the day goes on though.

[Mars_ax]

I watched Pacquiao vs. Marquez II again and it really makes me wonder how part three won't be a good fight.

The Marquez we saw against Mayweather might be influencing some fans predictions about how he'll do against Pacquiao. Mayweather was much bigger then JMM and twice as skilled, and while Manny at this point in his career has a much better skill set, he and JMM are about the same size.

Although Pac and JMM are about the same size physically, which might lead you to believe that we might see something akin to Pacquiao vs. Marquez II, it ain't likely to happen. Pac will have a big advantage in speed, power and improved boxing ability, that I can't see Marquez being able to overcome.

I don't believe the 3rd fight between these two warriors will be anything like the first 2, since Pac vs JMM II, in 2008, Pacquiao has blitzed through, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley, hardly losing a round. So why is JMM going to be any different then the other 7? I hate to say a great fighter like JMM has no chance against Pacquiao, but he really doesn't.

Because Marquez has fought Pacquiao close twice before. None of those fighters had experience fighting Manny. I liked that Marquez weighed in at 142 and he appeared more ripped than he usually does. There isn't going to be a huge size disadvantage here. That is hogwash. They weighed in at 142 and 143 respectively. There always was a speed disparity favoring Pacquiao and that is nothing new. Timing beats speed and Marquez has Pacquiao timed. My opinion is the minority. Most are picking a Pacquiao landslide and Pacquiao finishes him early. Pacquiao started off fast in both their other fights so that may happen again here. If Marquez can survive the early rounds, I like Manny in another great fight, in which he wins a little bit more clearly. Say 116-112. I may change my opinion as the day goes on though.

Right, they seem to be about the same size, so where do I say anything about a huge size disadvantage?

116-112 would mean that Pacquiao only wins 8 rounds and Marquez wins 4 rounds. Keep in mind that Pacquiao hasn't lost a total of 1 or 2 rounds in his last 7 fights combined, but he's going to lose 4 rounds to Marquez?

Because of what happened in Pac vs. JMM I & II, Marquez is being given an unrealistic chance by some in part III. The problem is, these aren't the same 2 pugs who last fought in 2008, Pac is way better, Marquez is not.

I'm not saying Marquez won't give it his best shot, or dissin' him in any way, but JMM will not be able to deal with what Manny brings to the dance this time.

[Tam Seddon]

What time does the fight start UK time? Need to make sure I am back in time from my night out

[Mars_ax]

What time does the fight start UK time? Need to make sure I am back in time from my night out

Coverage begins at 2:00 AM GMT / 3: 00 AM CET in the UK/Europe.

cheers

[Tam Seddon]

What time does the fight start UK time? Need to make sure I am back in time from my night out

Coverage begins at 2:00 AM GMT / 3: 00 AM CET in the UK/Europe.
cheers

Cheers!

[Mars_ax]

HBO Coverage begins tonight @ 9:00 PM EST here in North America and at 2:00 AM GMT / 3: 00 AM CET in the UK/Europe.

On HBO PPV, which means, i'll be hunting a stream since DIRECTV, is charging $64.95 to watch this mo-fo in HD, no way Jose.


November 12
At Las Vegas (HBO PPV): Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, third fight, 12 rounds, for Pacquiao's WBO welterweight title; Timothy Bradley Jr. vs. Joel Casamayor, 12 rounds, for Bradley's WBO junior welterweight title; Mike Alvarado vs. Breidis Prescott, 10 rounds, junior welterweights; Luis Cruz vs. Juan Carlos Burgos, 12 rounds, junior lightweights; Dennis Laurente vs. Ayi Bruce, 8 rounds, welterweights.