how the hell does anyone give jmm the last 2 rounds. He damn near stopped fighting cause of nacho. wtf
how the hell does anyone give jmm the last 2 rounds. He damn near stopped fighting cause of nacho. wtf
I thought Marquez was robbed. 118-110
It was the worst fight out of the 3. Both guys were too cautious and slower than they used to be. Looks like both are past their best and the fight never really caught fire despite afew good exchanges. Marquez always in control and showed that the wieght wasnt an issue but neither guy commited so they both left it in the hads of the judges.
Watching it now will post my scores in a bit.....round 1 hard to judge will give it to pac - head shots over body shots wins it for me this round
8-3 and 1 tied in favour of Marquez.
So i guess that would be 117-112
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See above for Rd 1
Rd2 - JMM
Rd3 - JMM
Rd4 - JMM
Rd5 - JMM - Clear win
Rd 6 - Pac - good work from both and if you favoured JMM's work no argument from me could have gone either way
Rd7 - JMM, landed some good shots. one thing i notice with JMM he doesn't always follow through with his shots he is happy to land and get away. He could cause more damage if he committed to his shots a bit more
Rd8 - JMM
Rd9 - Pac. Great round, plenty of 2 way traffic but Pac probably landed more quality shots. When he lets his combos go he has a lot of success. Marquez doing well to stay away and not get trapped on the ropes.
Rd 10 - Pac, but close another round that others could see different.
R11 - pac, ditto 10
R12 - JMM not a lot of action but Marquez edged it.
Jmm 115 - 113 Pac I think, if my maths is right
I think there was some rounds without a lot of action which made them hard to score but overall JMM landed the better shots, His movement was great he didnt get drawn in to an all out war but when there was exchanges he was holding his own. Pac seemed unable to close the gap effectively and he was bouncing around too much without doing much, why wasn't he exploding in to attacks and throwing a high volume of punches from different angles? Jmm was in great condition (both were)
Round 1 could have been given to Marquez, as could round 11 and some other rounds you can change round who you gave them to but either way you look at it JMM wins.
Pac did not seem as though he thought he won but of course he isn't going to say that. Wasn't as bad as Lewis v Holyfield 1 but the wrong guy definitely got the decision i reckon. Good fight though.
People will forget about this when all the casual fans start shouting for Pac vs Mayweather to happen in May
2 of the judges had Pac actually up 4 rounds to 2 after 6 rounds.
they all thought Pac won round 2. Which I'm perplexed by. That was Marquez's round.
Which didn't make sense. When you score a fight there are rounds you score for 1 guy and you could flip as you admit it was a close close round. Round 3 was like that to me. Round 2 wasn't!!!
Round 8- 2 of the judges disagreed with you. Another round I scored for Marquez and didn't put close beside to indicate it could easily be flipped.
Probably Marquez by 2 but I wasn't surprised by Pac getting the decision
The judge who gave it Pac by 4 wants sacking
But how many times we said this over last 20 years
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I had a clear victory for Marquez 8 rounds to 4.
I gave Marquez rounds 2,3,4,5,7,8,11,12.
I gave Pacquiao rounds 1,6,9,10
Most rounds were competitive but Marquez edged most of them out with the cleaner harder shots and the better ring generalship.
Marquez's work wasn't pretty but it was effective and it was certainly better than what Pacquiao was able to do round by round.
Pacquiao had a good case for winning their first two fights ( I thought he won the first and lost the second) but this third fight was definitely Marquez's night and it got robbed from him.
I will rewatch the fight later and post my second scorecard because when i scored it first time i was very tired.![]()
It's one thing i love about boxing is how everyone can see a fight different but not the extent that a clear win for 1 guy is not given to him. People are saying they are going to watch the fight again and see if their scores are any different, Maybe if the judges watched the fight again on tv away from the live crowd and concentrate 100% they might see it different too. (not that anything could be done about it)
Some rounds could be flipped as you say but no way did Manny win the fight. JMM must be so disheartened after that I would be amazed if he would want to go through another tough training camp just to risk having a win taken from him.
Here is my scorecard:
1. Pac
2. JMM
3. JMM
4. Pac
5. Pac
6. JMM
7. JMM
8. JMM
9. Pac
10. JMM
11. JMM
12. Pac
115-113 for JMM...
Rd. 1 nothing much to chose from but rd goes to the champion.
Rd. 7, at the conclusion of this rd Freddy tells Manny "You need to use your hand speed. Your letting him get off on you Manny. You need more combinations"
Rd. 12 was a close rd in the sense that I felt JMM landed more shots but I think Pac wanted the rd more and he closed it out stronger with the rally and a left hand he landed.
In a similar rd, rd. 4 where it was close Pac landed more shots and eventough JMM wanted the rd more and closed it out strong with a right hand I didn't think it was enough to win it.
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I had it JMM 7 to 5 MP today after rewatching it from Mannys point of view.
Some very close rounds.
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