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    Default Re: How did you score Pac/Marquez 3?

    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    See above for Rd 1

    Rd2 - JMM

    Rd3 - JMM

    Rd4 - JMM

    Rd5 - JMM - Clear win

    Rd 6 - Pac - good work from both and if you favoured JMM's work no argument from me could have gone either way

    Rd7 - JMM, landed some good shots. one thing i notice with JMM he doesn't always follow through with his shots he is happy to land and get away. He could cause more damage if he committed to his shots a bit more

    Rd8 - JMM

    Rd9 - Pac. Great round, plenty of 2 way traffic but Pac probably landed more quality shots. When he lets his combos go he has a lot of success. Marquez doing well to stay away and not get trapped on the ropes.

    Rd 10 - Pac, but close another round that others could see different.

    R11 - pac, ditto 10

    R12 - JMM not a lot of action but Marquez edged it.

    Jmm 115 - 113 Pac I think, if my maths is right

    I think there was some rounds without a lot of action which made them hard to score but overall JMM landed the better shots, His movement was great he didnt get drawn in to an all out war but when there was exchanges he was holding his own. Pac seemed unable to close the gap effectively and he was bouncing around too much without doing much, why wasn't he exploding in to attacks and throwing a high volume of punches from different angles? Jmm was in great condition (both were)

    Round 1 could have been given to Marquez, as could round 11 and some other rounds you can change round who you gave them to but either way you look at it JMM wins.

    Pac did not seem as though he thought he won but of course he isn't going to say that. Wasn't as bad as Lewis v Holyfield 1 but the wrong guy definitely got the decision i reckon. Good fight though.

    People will forget about this when all the casual fans start shouting for Pac vs Mayweather to happen in May
    2 of the judges had Pac actually up 4 rounds to 2 after 6 rounds.

    they all thought Pac won round 2. Which I'm perplexed by. That was Marquez's round.

    Which didn't make sense. When you score a fight there are rounds you score for 1 guy and you could flip as you admit it was a close close round. Round 3 was like that to me. Round 2 wasn't!!!

    Round 8- 2 of the judges disagreed with you. Another round I scored for Marquez and didn't put close beside to indicate it could easily be flipped.

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    Default Re: How did you score Pac/Marquez 3?

    Probably Marquez by 2 but I wasn't surprised by Pac getting the decision

    The judge who gave it Pac by 4 wants sacking

    But how many times we said this over last 20 years
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    Default Re: How did you score Pac/Marquez 3?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Probably Marquez by 2 but I wasn't surprised by Pac getting the decision

    The judge who gave it Pac by 4 wants sacking

    But how many times we said this over last 20 years
    by 4. He gave Marquez the 12th round. I thought Pac won that round. It is almost as if he gave that round to Marquez because he didn't want to turn in a 117-111 scorecard.

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    Default Re: How did you score Pac/Marquez 3?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Probably Marquez by 2 but I wasn't surprised by Pac getting the decision

    The judge who gave it Pac by 4 wants sacking

    But how many times we said this over last 20 years
    by 4. He gave Marquez the 12th round. I thought Pac won that round. It is almost as if he gave that round to Marquez because he didn't want to turn in a 117-111 scorecard.
    he thought Pac won 8 of the first 11 rounds. NO matter how you scored the fight, someone turning in that scorecard shouldn't be able to judge again.

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    Default Re: How did you score Pac/Marquez 3?

    7 to 5 Marquez, that was giving everything but the kitchen sink to Pac
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    Default Re: How did you score Pac/Marquez 3?

    I had a clear victory for Marquez 8 rounds to 4.

    I gave Marquez rounds 2,3,4,5,7,8,11,12.

    I gave Pacquiao rounds 1,6,9,10

    Most rounds were competitive but Marquez edged most of them out with the cleaner harder shots and the better ring generalship.

    Marquez's work wasn't pretty but it was effective and it was certainly better than what Pacquiao was able to do round by round.

    Pacquiao had a good case for winning their first two fights ( I thought he won the first and lost the second) but this third fight was definitely Marquez's night and it got robbed from him.

    I will rewatch the fight later and post my second scorecard because when i scored it first time i was very tired.

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    Default Re: How did you score Pac/Marquez 3?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    See above for Rd 1

    Rd2 - JMM

    Rd3 - JMM

    Rd4 - JMM

    Rd5 - JMM - Clear win

    Rd 6 - Pac - good work from both and if you favoured JMM's work no argument from me could have gone either way

    Rd7 - JMM, landed some good shots. one thing i notice with JMM he doesn't always follow through with his shots he is happy to land and get away. He could cause more damage if he committed to his shots a bit more

    Rd8 - JMM

    Rd9 - Pac. Great round, plenty of 2 way traffic but Pac probably landed more quality shots. When he lets his combos go he has a lot of success. Marquez doing well to stay away and not get trapped on the ropes.

    Rd 10 - Pac, but close another round that others could see different.

    R11 - pac, ditto 10

    R12 - JMM not a lot of action but Marquez edged it.

    Jmm 115 - 113 Pac I think, if my maths is right

    I think there was some rounds without a lot of action which made them hard to score but overall JMM landed the better shots, His movement was great he didnt get drawn in to an all out war but when there was exchanges he was holding his own. Pac seemed unable to close the gap effectively and he was bouncing around too much without doing much, why wasn't he exploding in to attacks and throwing a high volume of punches from different angles? Jmm was in great condition (both were)

    Round 1 could have been given to Marquez, as could round 11 and some other rounds you can change round who you gave them to but either way you look at it JMM wins.

    Pac did not seem as though he thought he won but of course he isn't going to say that. Wasn't as bad as Lewis v Holyfield 1 but the wrong guy definitely got the decision i reckon. Good fight though.

    People will forget about this when all the casual fans start shouting for Pac vs Mayweather to happen in May
    2 of the judges had Pac actually up 4 rounds to 2 after 6 rounds.

    they all thought Pac won round 2. Which I'm perplexed by. That was Marquez's round.

    Which didn't make sense. When you score a fight there are rounds you score for 1 guy and you could flip as you admit it was a close close round. Round 3 was like that to me. Round 2 wasn't!!!

    Round 8- 2 of the judges disagreed with you. Another round I scored for Marquez and didn't put close beside to indicate it could easily be flipped.
    It's one thing i love about boxing is how everyone can see a fight different but not the extent that a clear win for 1 guy is not given to him. People are saying they are going to watch the fight again and see if their scores are any different, Maybe if the judges watched the fight again on tv away from the live crowd and concentrate 100% they might see it different too. (not that anything could be done about it)
    Some rounds could be flipped as you say but no way did Manny win the fight. JMM must be so disheartened after that I would be amazed if he would want to go through another tough training camp just to risk having a win taken from him.

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