Frazier V Tyson

[El Kabong]

All Tyson fans have are cop outs: Tyson wasn't training, Rooney wasn't in his corner, Cus died, Don King ruined him.....excuses on excuses.

Tyson had no heart

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All Tyson fans have are cop outs: Tyson wasn't training, Rooney wasn't in his corner, Cus died, Don King ruined him.....excuses on excuses.

Tyson had no heart

No heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury

Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting

[El Kabong]

Tyson never won a fight where he faced adversity, the Klitschko's have....FACT

[LobowolfXXX]

Tyson never won a fight where he faced adversity, the Klitschko's have....FACT

That sort of punishes Tyson for the fact that he tore through several world champions with no difficulty whatsoever.

[El Kabong]

Tyson never won a fight where he faced adversity, the Klitschko's have....FACT

That sort of punishes Tyson for the fact that he tore through several world champions with no difficulty whatsoever.

The Klitschko's get no respect for dominating their era which is damn near on par with Tyson's era.

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I suppose if you count there era from the Brewster fight onwards then yeah they are dominating.

Thats like being the the retarded bully in primary school and the year above him has just moved up to secondary.

I still say that the contenders in the eighties are far more skilled than the Kiltschkos today.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I suppose if you count there era from the Brewster fight onwards then yeah they are dominating.

Thats like being the the retarded bully in primary school and the year above him has just moved up to secondary.

I still say that the contenders in the eighties are far more skilled than the Kiltschkos today.

name in what way Bonecrusher Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Marvis Frazier, Buster Douglas, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, Henry Tillman, Alex Stewart, and Bruce Seldon, are better than Chris Arreola, Hasim Rahman, David Haye, Tomasz Adamek, Samuel Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Chris Byrd, Jameel McCline etc.

[El Kabong]

I still say that the contenders in the eighties are far more skilled than the Kiltschkos today.

You would because it supports your view.....I wouldn't because I'm a rational person. Tyson didn't even fight some of the more dangerous fighters out there: Mercer, Bowe, Briggs, Morrison, Moorer, Rahman, Foreman. But no, Tyson fought Henry fucking Tillman and we're supposed to appreciate that

Wlad and Vitali have fought anyone and everyone and are willing to do so twice.

[ElTerribleMorales]

All Tyson fans have are cop outs: Tyson wasn't training, Rooney wasn't in his corner, Cus died, Don King ruined him.....excuses on excuses.

Tyson had no heart

No heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury

Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting

oh yea and he did that all with a broken back

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All Tyson fans have are cop outs: Tyson wasn't training, Rooney wasn't in his corner, Cus died, Don King ruined him.....excuses on excuses.

Tyson had no heart

No heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury

Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting

oh yea and he did that all with a broken back

No, that was against Ettiene

[ElTerribleMorales]

All Tyson fans have are cop outs: Tyson wasn't training, Rooney wasn't in his corner, Cus died, Don King ruined him.....excuses on excuses.

Tyson had no heart

No heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury

Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting

oh yea and he did that all with a broken back

No, that was against Ettiene

i know what fight it was after, who the fuck wouldn't, it's probably Tyson's 2nd most famous interview after a fight, question is, where was Mike's heart when he was being battered from pillar to pillar against Holyfield in the rematch?

[El Kabong]

I like how this devolved into a Tyson vs The Klitschko's thread....say what you will about either side 'Smokin' Joe Frazier was never an easy fight, even Foreman will admit that.

...Also just to point this out Wlad has fought (and beat) more southpaws than any other heavyweight champion. So from a strict style standpoint, Wlad has had more thrown at him.

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The Tony Tucker that Tyson faced would beat everyone that the Klitschkos have

Just like your blinkered that the Klitschkos are good (and not the fact there is just not the challengers out there like there was 15 plus years ago). You are also blinkered almost programmed to not give Tyson any props. I think it comes from how popular he was and its almost gawdy to mention Tyson in any greatest lists or give him any credit.

Like anyone who lost to Tyson was instantly crap. Mike beat Holmes but then Holmes became a better fighter after Mike smashed him and he beat Mercer? No way Holmes comes in unprepared with his ego.

Frazier had a style that made Ali work but no matter how good your chin is, if its there to be hit it will be against that young Tyson, as Holmes found out.Mike cleaned up a division and fought everyone in that division over a few years and left no question as to who the best was andbecause he was so greatly skilled he made everyone he fought look pedestrian. Its only when he didnt do the things that put him on those experts in the eighties greatest lists that he relied on his more physical assets of power and taking a shot but he just didnt have the same desire. Much unlike Morales who is the opposite. He has desire up to his eyeballs andthe skill is still there but his physical assets are letting him down.

[ElTerribleMorales]

The Tony Tucker that Tyson faced would beat everyone that the Klitschkos have

Just like your blinkered that the Klitschkos are good (and not the fact there is just not the challengers out there like there was 15 plus years ago). You are also blinkered almost programmed to not give Tyson any props. I think it comes from how popular he was and its almost gawdy to mention Tyson in any greatest lists or give him any credit.

Like anyone who lost to Tyson was instantly crap. Mike beat Holmes but then Holmes became a better fighter after Mike smashed him and he beat Mercer? No way Holmes comes in unprepared with his ego.

Frazier had a style that made Ali work but no matter how good your chin is, if its there to be hit it will be against that young Tyson, as Holmes found out.Mike cleaned up a division and fought everyone in that division over a few years and left no question as to who the best was andbecause he was so greatly skilled he made everyone he fought look pedestrian. Its only when he didnt do the things that put him on those experts in the eighties greatest lists that he relied on his more physical assets of power and taking a shot but he just didnt have the same desire. Much unlike Morales who is the opposite. He has desire up to his eyeballs andthe skill is still there but his physical assets are letting him down.

we're talking heavyweights hahaha wtf does Morales have to do with it? hahaha