Who is the tougher opponent, Ortiz or Marquez?

[Master]

Marquez and it's not debatable.

Ortiz and it is not debatable.

I told you it's not debatable..

LOL I apologise to you, this is why I have not joined the prediction thread, I am useless.

[stebs]

Ortiz, the young southpaw, coming off a career-defining win over highly-touted Andre Berto or Marquez, the future HOF, one of the top Mexican fighters of all time, and who has given Pacquiao fits in the two times they faced eachother?

tougher opponent for who. ??

[FinitoElDinamita]

Marquez and it's not debatable.

Ortiz and it is not debatable.

I told you it's not debatable..

LOL I apologise to you, this is why I have not joined the prediction thread, I am useless.

ohh stop it.. You know your stuff well from what ive seen, Master.. You should join the league next season... More competition the better..