Not a ROBBERY Please look :D

[miron_lang]

There was close rounds that could of went either way but to give Pacquiao a win i think a judge would have to give Pacquiao all of the close rounds.

I think Pacquiao did enough to get a draw but a win ? i don't think so.

Most rounds were competitive but Marquez got the better of them in most in them based on his cleaner harder shots and the fight was fought at a Marquez pace for the most part.

Pacquiao did enough to win the 1st and 2nd fights like Marquez did but i just can't see how you could have Pacquiao winning this 3rd fight.

You're evaluating the fight in its entirety. Judges do it round by round.

If you look at the whole content. then there's no doubt about it Marquez won. but that's not the way judges score it.

[Pugilistic]

There was close rounds that could of went either way but to give Pacquiao a win i think a judge would have to give Pacquiao all of the close rounds.

I think Pacquiao did enough to get a draw but a win ? i don't think so.

Most rounds were competitive but Marquez got the better of them in most in them based on his cleaner harder shots and the fight was fought at a Marquez pace for the most part.

Pacquiao did enough to win the 1st and 2nd fights like Marquez did but i just can't see how you could have Pacquiao winning this 3rd fight.

You're evaluating the fight in its entirety. Judges do it round by round.

If you look at the whole content. then there's no doubt about it Marquez won. but that's not the way judges score it.

I watched the fight from rounds 1-12 and i had Marquez winning more rounds.

Every fan judges a fight round by round then evaluates there scores at the end. The fight as a whole was a win for Marquez.

The fact you have to twist and take other fight fans scores and mix them up to get a Pacquiao win is a joke.

The point is those 5 posters (including me) had Marquez winning. Not Pacquiao.

[miron_lang]

The fact you have to twist and take other fight fans scores and mix them up to get a Pacquiao win is a joke.

The point is those 5 posters (including me) had Marquez winning. Not Pacquiao.

I am not twisting anything. I got the data from the 5 of you.


and its SHOWS that 9 ROunds were not CLEAR


If 9 ROUNDS werent clear. some of the judges can see it for Pacquiao as they did.

[Pugilistic]

The fact you have to twist and take other fight fans scores and mix them up to get a Pacquiao win is a joke.

The point is those 5 posters (including me) had Marquez winning. Not Pacquiao.

I am not twisting anything. I got the data from the 5 of you.


and its SHOWS that 9 ROunds were not CLEAR


If 9 ROUNDS werent clear. some of the judges can see it for Pacquiao as they did.

So according to the results you displayed us 5 posters agreed that 9 rounds were up for debate but that means there was 3 rounds Marquez definitely won which means he only needs another 4 rounds for a win.

To give Pacquiao a win it would mean giving him all the close rounds.

[miron_lang]

Finally got the fight. Ive seen the first 3 rounds and definately PAC won 1 and 3. and good claim at round 2 as well.


Pugilistic


since no one among the 5 of you gave round 3 to PAC are you willing to debate with me that Pacquiao won round 3? lets make a thread about it.

I am watching ROUND 3 right now for the 2nd time and IMO it is a CLEAR ROUND for Pacquiao.

[Pugilistic]

Finally got the fight. Ive seen the first 3 rounds and definately PAC won 1 and 3. and good claim at round 2 as well.


Pugilistic


since no one among the 5 of you gave round 3 to PAC are you willing to debate with me that Pacquiao won round 3? lets make a thread about it.

I am watching ROUND 3 right now for the 2nd time and IMO it is a CLEAR ROUND for Pacquiao.

I will rewatch it tomorrow and post my scores,etc.

P.S Round 1 was not a clear Pacquiao round. Neither fighter did alot, i gave it to Pac for being slightly busier.

It could of easily of went Marquez's way though.

[Gandalf]

Finally got the fight. Ive seen the first 3 rounds and definately PAC won 1 and 3. and good claim at round 2 as well.


Pugilistic


since no one among the 5 of you gave round 3 to PAC are you willing to debate with me that Pacquiao won round 3? lets make a thread about it.

I am watching ROUND 3 right now for the 2nd time and IMO it is a CLEAR ROUND for Pacquiao.

Rounds 2 through to 5 were obviously for Marquez. Going into the second half he was up 4-2. You could make a claim for it being 5-1 if you edge the first to Marquez.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Rounds 2 through to 5 were obviously for Marquez. Going into the second half he was up 4-2. You could make a claim for it being 5-1 if you edge the first to Marquez.

ElTerribleMorales obviously missed that. He gave round 4 to Pac.

Round 4: Pacquiao, finally starts throwing more and landing the left, Marquez lands a couple nice right counters but is out worked and out landed

[Beanz]

Finally got the fight. Ive seen the first 3 rounds and definately PAC won 1 and 3. and good claim at round 2 as well.


Pugilistic

since no one among the 5 of you gave round 3 to PAC are you willing to debate with me that Pacquiao won round 3? lets make a thread about it.

I am watching ROUND 3 right now for the 2nd time and IMO it is a CLEAR ROUND for Pacquiao.

Surely you are jesting. You had the temerity to post a thread flying in the face of majority opinion,common sense,and public indignation from a position of extreme ignorance having not even watched the fight? !!! like Bilbo who watched it on a mobile and then cherry picked so called boxing experts based on them supporting his very weak argument.You have no right to air any opinion if all you are basing it on is other peoples posts. Really you are clutching at straws. It seems you, Fenster and Bilbo think that agreeing with the majority will undermine some mythical kudos and so to underline your specialness you have to disagree with reality.
Re: Not a ROBBERY Please look

Greenbeanz


ROBBERIES = FIGHT you CLEARLY WON but was AWARDED TO THE OTHER FIGHTER


IF 9 Potential rounds are there for Pacquiao to claim then this is not a robbery. I thought that was simple enough.

you are correct JMM clearly won. Nobody gave Pacquiao 9 rounds. NOBODY. ZILCH. ZERO. tHe most given to him by the super 5 was 5 three gave him 4 rounds and one only 2.
So i may be a little rusty on maths but to get an average using your logic 5 posts over 12 rounds equals 60 rounds. the 5 posts gave Pacquiao a total of 20 rounds. thats 20 out of 60 one third. one third of 12 rounds is 4. 4 rounds not 9.There is never in any scenario 9 potential rounds for Pacquiao only 4 at most. The problem is your logic is not simple it requires the universe to be turned on it's head. Being given a win in such a manner is not only bad for boxing it is bad for Manny. It tarnishes his career it puts into question other results so even Pac fanboys should be and are disappointed. I was not rooting for any particular fighter like many i called it as i saw it. So before you start accusing people of bias maybe you should look in the mirror. Robbery.FACT, FACT nailed on, indisputable,Mutha**ckin FACT

[Fenster]

Greenbeanz, I haven't even said who I thought won. So for the record - I think Marquez won. That makes him 3-0 over Pac in my book.

However, not ONE single fight was a ROBBERY and I scored the 2nd fight widest of all. Fact.

[FinitoElDinamita]

There was close rounds that could of went either way but to give Pacquiao a win i think a judge would have to give Pacquiao all of the close rounds.

I think Pacquiao did enough to get a draw but a win ? i don't think so.

Most rounds were competitive but Marquez got the better of them in most in them based on his cleaner harder shots and the fight was fought at a Marquez pace for the most part.

Pacquiao did enough to win the 1st and 2nd fights like Marquez did but i just can't see how you could have Pacquiao winning this 3rd fight.

You're evaluating the fight in its entirety. Judges do it round by round.

If you look at the whole content. then there's no doubt about it Marquez won. but that's not the way judges score it.

I watched the fight from rounds 1-12 and i had Marquez winning more rounds.

Every fan judges a fight round by round then evaluates there scores at the end. The fight as a whole was a win for Marquez.

The fact you have to twist and take other fight fans scores and mix them up to get a Pacquiao win is a joke.

The point is those 5 posters (including me) had Marquez winning. Not Pacquiao.

lol Pwned again.. pactards are used to getting shown up..

These guys do not understand logics, point blank.

[miron_lang]

lol Pwned again.. pactards are used to getting shown up..

These guys do not understand logics, point blank.

What do you mean by that?


The point and the supporting arguments i presented were very clear.