Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
I can only assume some of the more longer term residents here are trolling. You cannot argue with popular opinion and the facts are that Marquez was deemed to have won by about 2/3rd of the public. Only a few diehards and a couple of corrupt judges give it to Pac and some argue for a keep the peace draw. Those saying that Manny might have won are a tiny minority.

I had it 8-4 and GAVE two of my 'even' rounds to Pac. Unless you are giving Manny every benefit you can only have him losing by a closer margin. To have Marquez losing 8-4 is sick. To have Marquez down at the half way mark is sick. There was something terribly wrong with the scoring and the fix was in.

How people are defending that is disgusting and shame on anyone that does so.
I was absolutely convinced that MArquez would get steamrolled, didn't want to watch the fight but finally decided to see it as my 2 cousins joined after my godfather's b-day. I understand Fenster argument of the round by round but I disagree with it because everybody at some point is tempted to say "ok, I think Marquez won that one but for the sake of trying to be impartial, I'd give that one to Marquez", which is a part of why I believe the scoring cards on some rounds are a bit different. I've seen the match again and I still can't give less than 8 rounds to Marquez. I could make a compromise with those that say that it was not a robbery but something damn shady, I'd do that for the sake of good faith but inside, I feel like it's an utter robbery.