Was a ROBBERY Please look :D

[Fenster]

Some respected boxing writers scored it for Pac too. And lots had it a draw.

I know, I know, they are obviously corrupt/inept/thick. They should all be sacked and never allowed to watch boxing again. Or better still horse whipped to death.

I would like to see a long list of them all emerge as I recall in the wake of the second fight where Marquez seemed to be the dominant winner. I would be surprised if it wasn't the same here. And when I say dominant winner, I just mean the person with the most W's in the column.

Does it matter? It's not like you'd give their opinion any credit anyway

Agreed or not, I would be curious to see such a list and more so if their viewpoints went with them. I have my views, but I do read and listen too.

I don't just read a newspaper and take it at face value. You read it and then evaluate what you read.

It's the same with posters and fight reviews. I read every word, but it doesn't mean I need to agree with it all. But it's interesting nonetheless.

Here you go then, here's Graham Houston's opinion, I've never seen anything other than total respect for this man in the boxing business -

NO CLOSURE: Manny Pacquiao W12 (maj.) Juan Manuel Marquez

Clearly though he doesn't understand boxing and his opinion is utterly worthless. How could he possibly think it wasn't a robbery. Shocking.

[Gandalf]

Some respected boxing writers scored it for Pac too. And lots had it a draw.

I know, I know, they are obviously corrupt/inept/thick. They should all be sacked and never allowed to watch boxing again. Or better still horse whipped to death.

I would like to see a long list of them all emerge as I recall in the wake of the second fight where Marquez seemed to be the dominant winner. I would be surprised if it wasn't the same here. And when I say dominant winner, I just mean the person with the most W's in the column.

Does it matter? It's not like you'd give their opinion any credit anyway

Agreed or not, I would be curious to see such a list and more so if their viewpoints went with them. I have my views, but I do read and listen too.

I don't just read a newspaper and take it at face value. You read it and then evaluate what you read.

It's the same with posters and fight reviews. I read every word, but it doesn't mean I need to agree with it all. But it's interesting nonetheless.

Here you go then, here's Graham Houston's opinion, I've never seen anything other than total respect for this man in the boxing business -

NO CLOSURE: Manny Pacquiao W12 (maj.) Juan Manuel Marquez

Clearly though he doesn't understand boxing and his opinion is utterly worthless. How could he possibly think it wasn't a robbery. Shocking.

Stop using such hyperbole. I like Graham Houston and generally speaking respect what he says too, but I do disagree with him. It doesn't kill his opinion, but it does mean I take issue with what he said. But for every writer that you produce who gives Manny the win, there are numerous others who give it to Marquez and not only writers, but seemingly the vast majority of boxers and forum pollsters too.

Al Bernstein scored it two points in favour of Marquez. Have I now cancelled out your Houston verdict? He is a pretty level headed chap too.

Like I say, I would like to see a list of them all side by side, just to see how they pan it out. Not because I am right, but because I am curious to see how my views pan out amongst them. And yours too, and you yourself thought Marquez won by a couple so I don't know what you are arguing really. What I saw is correlating far more with you than what Houston saw.

[Fenster]

err.. what? Whether I think Marquez won or not is irrelevant. I've took umbrage with the cries of robbery. My argument is against the so-called robbery, not the winner of the contest.

If I produce writers that thought Marquez won, writers that thought Manny won and writers that thought it was a draw, what would that indicate to you? To me it would mean a CLOSE fight that split opinion. If it's CLOSE and debatable how can it be a robbery? Even if most people slightly favour one man over another. Madness. Utter madness.

(Courtesy of Ratcatrat) - Press row was split. Dan Rafael had this fight a draw. Max Kellerman had the fight a draw too. Steve Kim from maxboxing.com had the fight 115-113 Marquez. Steven Edwards on boxingtalk.com had it 115-113 Pacquiao. Doveed Linder also from boxingtalk.com had it 6-6.

Goerge Willis from the New York Post - "it was a tough fight to score." http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/boxin...PD1gTqeGrikrkI

Dan Rafael
Pacquiao-Marquez: Manny Pacquiao picks off Juan Manuel Marquez, ready for Floyd Mayweather - ESPN

Michael Woods
No, Marquez was not 'robbed' vs. Pacquiao - New York Boxing Blog - ESPN New York

Gareth A Davies
Manny Pacquiao v Juan Manuel Marquez: round-by-round verdict - Telegraph

[KKisser]

such a passionate lot. lol

[Gandalf]

such a passionate lot. lol

Do not join a fencefight with a pencil. Add your view. Who won and in which rounds and therefore pass judgement. But to do no other but make a snide comment is just......gay.

[KKisser]

such a passionate lot. lol

Do not join a fencefight with a pencil. Add your view. Who won and in which rounds and therefore pass judgement. But to do no other but make a snide comment is just......gay.

c'mon miles, it wasn't meant as a snide remark. i just thought that you've said your piece and other people have expressed their opinion and it's about time we should move on and respect each other's opinions. you don't have to resort to name calling. lol

this dear juan article or blog sums up what i think about the whole deal. the only difference is the writer thought pacquiao won while i had it a draw.

Dear Juan Manuel Marquez | Michael D. Sellers

[Gandalf]

such a passionate lot. lol

Do not join a fencefight with a pencil. Add your view. Who won and in which rounds and therefore pass judgement. But to do no other but make a snide comment is just......gay.

c'mon miles, it wasn't meant as a snide remark. i just thought that you've said your piece and other people have expressed their opinion and it's about time we should move on and respect each other's opinions. you don't have to resort to name calling. lol

this dear juan write-up sums up what i think about the whole deal. the only difference is the writer thought pacquiao won while i had it a draw.

Dear Juan Manuel Marquez | Michael D. Sellers

But he didn't win and the fact that no judge had him winning is a crime. It is like George Bush walking free. The guy is a war criminal and nobody has him and in the same sense Manny is a war criminal too, he is bound by the corruption which US territory seems to breed in. It's like the judges take corruption pills.

"We'll excuse him, he is our leader. We must make excuses" But the guy is a fraud. He lost.....again. And the worst thing is Manny himself not being able to admit he lost. He looked pathetic. After the fight and in the interview. What a politician, what a fraud.