Anyone else bored of 'racism' yet?

[Rantcatrat]

I gotta call BS on the hate-crime stats. Legally speaking there is no such thing as a hate-crime when the victim is white. Kind of hard to give reasonable statistics when the largest portion of the population is omitted.

Crimes against whites were included in th is recent study. There were 679 anti-white incidents. US Hate Crimes Continue At Steady Pace, FBI Says - San Diego News Story - KGTV San Diego

[Kev]

Racism rows really bore the fuck out of me too, especially because it simply isn't and actually in many case cannot even be, true racism.

Real racism is the brutal subjugation and oppression of one race by another. Those of the subjugated race are deemed inferior, have limited rights, unequal opportunities might suffer active persecution and are treated as a second class, on account of their skin colour.

How is that even possible in the case of Tiger Woods and his caddy?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Tiger Woods probably earn ten times more a year at least than his former caddy? Doesn't he exert, maybe 100 times more influence worldwide and enjoy a status far above and beyond what this caddy could ever hope to achieve?

How therefore can this caddy act in a racist way towards to him when all the power, money, influence and prestige belong to Tiger?

I'm guessing he called Tiger a black arsehole because firstly, he is an asshole, and secondly his skin colour, being black, is the single most identifiable unique aspect to his appearence in relation to other golfers, who are almost exclusively white.

Were he calling John Daley an arsehole, I imagine he would have said fat arsehole Jack Nicklaus would probably be described as an old bastard etc. I doubt people would have suggested he had sinister intentions towards the overweight and the elderly.

It annoys me.

[Master]

I gotta call BS on the hate-crime stats. Legally speaking there is no such thing as a hate-crime when the victim is white. Kind of hard to give reasonable statistics when the largest portion of the population is omitted.

Crimes against whites were included in th is recent study. There were 679 anti-white incidents. US Hate Crimes Continue At Steady Pace, FBI Says - San Diego News Story - KGTV San Diego

All "races" are protected under the law.

[Master]

I know you are probably sick of hearing it but Sepp Blatter demonstrates how people perceive the problem, that it is not a problem, can be forgotten and forgiven with a hand shake. Suarez has been charged and he has admitted calling him names that Evra’s colleague already called him, which is his defence. So from the sounds of things he will should be found guilty too.

[Kev]

I know you are probably sick of hearing it but Sepp Blatter demonstrates how people perceive the problem, that it is not a problem, can be forgotten and forgiven with a hand shake. Suarez has been charged and he has admitted calling him names that Evra’s colleague already called him, which is his defence. So from the sounds of things he will should be found guilty too.

I actually agree with Blatter. I'd far rather another player called me a white bastard than the fans chanted I was a pedo or even fat or ginger.

[Master]

I know you are probably sick of hearing it but Sepp Blatter demonstrates how people perceive the problem, that it is not a problem, can be forgotten and forgiven with a hand shake. Suarez has been charged and he has admitted calling him names that Evra’s colleague already called him, which is his defence. So from the sounds of things he will should be found guilty too.

I actually agree with Blatter. I'd far rather another player called me a white bastard than the fans chanted I was a pedo or even fat or ginger.

You would say that as you probably never faced racism before, look at your own example of the caddie and Tiger, no matter how successful Tiger is, the caddie things he is better/superior than him just because he is white.

[Kev]

I know you are probably sick of hearing it but Sepp Blatter demonstrates how people perceive the problem, that it is not a problem, can be forgotten and forgiven with a hand shake. Suarez has been charged and he has admitted calling him names that Evra’s colleague already called him, which is his defence. So from the sounds of things he will should be found guilty too.

I actually agree with Blatter. I'd far rather another player called me a white bastard than the fans chanted I was a pedo or even fat or ginger.

You would say that as you probably never faced racism before, look at your own example of the caddie and Tiger, no matter how successful Tiger is, the caddie things he is better/superior than him just because he is white.

Huh? How did you conclude that? Black people are incapable of being assholes is what you are saying then? The only way a white person could dislike a black man is because he is black?

[Kev]

Out of interest Master, can you explain to me why it is worse?

I mean say 5 people go to school. All are bullied. One is black. One is fat. One is ugly. One is gigner. (hang on I guess that means two are ugly now) One is gay.

They are all disliked by certain people at school as a direct result of these characteristics.

According to you, the black guy suffers a far worse time, his ordeal is more hurtful and severe because it is the colour of his skin they dn't like, rather than the amount of skin (fat boy), the hair growing out of the skin (ginger kid) the face that is coated in white skin (ugly boy) etc.

It seems to me that when it comes to name calling I would rather be disliked by someone for somwthing generic and non personal like my race, than something that is part of me directly, ugliness, sexuality, ginger hair, fat etc.

If the real racist element doesnt exist (no subjugation, denial of rights, having to hold an inferior status within your society) then it's just name calling.

I would argue that women in Saudi Arabia are treated far worse than black footballers or golfers in the UK or US. That's real sexism, the denial of rights. On the other hand David Cameron telling a female MP to 'Calm down dear' for example is not real sexism, as he's not subjugating or denying her any rights. She is equal in the eyes of British society.

I just hate that the trivial gets included within the serious.

[Rantcatrat]

The difference between saying you fat bastard or you black bastard is the historical context. I understand both are hurtful and maybe have the same point from the speaker but when you take into consideration the historical prejudice black people have endured in western countries, it has a different connotation. Really when you take into consideration the effect that race/religion has played in our society historically, referring to anyone by the color of their skin or their religious is different than their phsyical appearance. If a white guy said you "muslim bastard" to a practicing muslim, it's just different than saying you fat bastard even if the white guy didn't mean anything by it. Society places emphasis on the racial/religous differences betwee all of us for better or worse. Double standards are wrong though.

[Master]

I know you are probably sick of hearing it but Sepp Blatter demonstrates how people perceive the problem, that it is not a problem, can be forgotten and forgiven with a hand shake. Suarez has been charged and he has admitted calling him names that Evra’s colleague already called him, which is his defence. So from the sounds of things he will should be found guilty too.

I actually agree with Blatter. I'd far rather another player called me a white bastard than the fans chanted I was a pedo or even fat or ginger.

You would say that as you probably never faced racism before, look at your own example of the caddie and Tiger, no matter how successful Tiger is, the caddie things he is better/superior than him just because he is white.

Huh? How did you conclude that? Black people are incapable of being assholes is what you are saying then? The only way a white person could dislike a black man is because he is black?

If he simply thought he was an ass hole he would have just called him that.

[VictorCharlie]

I gotta call BS on the hate-crime stats. Legally speaking there is no such thing as a hate-crime when the victim is white. Kind of hard to give reasonable statistics when the largest portion of the population is omitted.

Crimes against whites were included in th is recent study. There were 679 anti-white incidents. US Hate Crimes Continue At Steady Pace, FBI Says - San Diego News Story - KGTV San Diego

Thats pretty interesting considering its not a hate crime if the victim is not a minority. The simple fact that we have "hate-crimes" is laughable. Somehow an assault is a worse crime if there is a racial bias...what a joke.