Anyone else bored of 'racism' yet?

[VictorCharlie]

I gotta call BS on the hate-crime stats. Legally speaking there is no such thing as a hate-crime when the victim is white. Kind of hard to give reasonable statistics when the largest portion of the population is omitted.

Crimes against whites were included in th is recent study. There were 679 anti-white incidents. US Hate Crimes Continue At Steady Pace, FBI Says - San Diego News Story - KGTV San Diego

Thats pretty interesting considering its not a hate crime if the victim is not a minority. The simple fact that we have "hate-crimes" is laughable. Somehow an assault is a worse crime if there is a racial bias...what a joke.

[Ghost]

never EVER call anyone English my friend. Especially if you are going to follow it with a derogatory noun.

Its just not acceptable any more

And you should know that

How about Pommie Bastard?

[Mark TKO]

never EVER call anyone English my friend. Especially if you are going to follow it with a derogatory noun.

Its just not acceptable any more

And you should know that

How about Pommie Bastard?

when I went to Vietnam a couple of years ago most in my tour group were Australian. After getting to know each other and being on the piss most nights thats what they started to call me. Should I have been offended ??

I

[Beanz]

The thing with half cast is that once again it is correct. You have a black father and a white mother and then you have a child that is a mixture of those genetic types. To be called half whatever is just a definition of how one appears. They are not James Toney black and they are not Hitler white, they are quite definitely something inbetween and I see nothing negative in being able to describe someone's appearance.

Half cast might have negative connotations because of history, but you would do just as well to have another word, perhaps 'halfcolour' or the more politically correct 'people of half colour'. Well, that just sounds stupid, just call them half casts and educate society to become more tolerant of ethnic diversity which in many ways the UK is. Certainly much more so than somewhere like Korea.

To be honest, you kinda Barking up the wrong tree... You have to know the origins of the term 'Half-Cast' to understand why it is offensive... Mongrel isn't even that offensive. Just stupid. We are all 'mongrel' in one way or another.

Fuck whatever Missy and Mark are talkin about, the younger generation have the right idea. Ignorance should never be accepted.

So show me the history of the term 'half cast'. It is a term with exactly the same meaning as 'mixed race'. Maybe 100 years later 'mixed race' will be called out as being wrong. Mongrel is crude and revolting as it suggests dog like characteristics. It suggests less than human which 'half cast' never does. In that way half cast is more endearing and in all honesty is not particularly offensive anyway.

The Poet John Agard in talking about his poem Half-Caste

"This imposition of half, half, half on a person's total human complexity implies that some sort of 'purity' has been subverted. A child of mixed race is a tangible, loving expression of human beings from different cultural backgrounds getting together - that should be seen not as something threatening, but as something enriching..."
John Agard

Caste comes from the latin castus meaning pure. Prefixing pure with half automatically gives it a negative as though the person being described is less than pure. The history of the term is very different depending on which country in which it is used and is coined by the imperial conquering culture. In our case as Brits, the Empire. After the subjugation of commonwealth countries it started as a term to describe anyone of mixed race, not necessarily black and white . Your belief that it is "endearing" is perhaps ill-judged as for many it will carry connotations of condescension.

[Beanz]

For example, Bilbo, in Brooklyn recently, swastikas and KKK were spray-painted in a religious jewish area. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/ny...f=antisemitism Given the historical context, nazis killed millions of jews, the kkk strung jews up in the south, it is more hurtful than if the spray-paint was fat bastards.

Actually I completely agree with you on this, and with master regarding Stephen Lawrence. I would also see use of the N word as a direct racial attack. But footballers slagging each other off and a caddy slagging of his former employee and friend has no racial subtext imo and to claim so trivialises real racism.

As to the caddy just calling him an asshole if he wasn't racist rather than a black asshole I totally disagree. All insults are preceeded by a personal slur. It's very unnatural to make an insult without it. Try it. Do you call someone a bastard, or fat bastard, ugly bastard, ginger bastard, whiny bastard etc? There is always a descriptive that prefaces the swear word, always. It's always the thing that stands out to most define that person as well. For Tiger its being black.

It is precisely because you think Tiger Woods (womanising Hypocrite that he is) being black, is his most defining characteristic and that you then throw black into the same territory as fat, ugly and ginger that you fail to see the inherent racism in calling someone a black asshole. White fat bastard, White ugly bastard, both racist,Ginger Bastard not racist but more offensive than bastard.

[Beanz]

Nah I'm not bored of it, I just think many of the situations are rather sad or amusing depending on the circumstances.


BTW, if I were to call Miles a whiny English cunt, am I being prejudice against the English? Or is that a descriptor?

Yes you are again displaying prejudice against the English by inserting English in-between whiny and the four letter c word. The construction of your sentence implies that the English are whiny and the plural version of the four letter c word. It is not a descriptor, a descriptor is a term used in Libraries,Website design in fact anywhere a database needs a way to index information for easy future retrieval. It was coined by Calvin Northrup Mooers the American computer scientist in 1948.

[Master]

Nah I'm not bored of it, I just think many of the situations are rather sad or amusing depending on the circumstances.


BTW, if I were to call Miles a whiny English cunt, am I being prejudice against the English? Or is that a descriptor?

Yes you are again displaying prejudice against the English by inserting English in-between whiny and the four letter c word. The construction of your sentence implies that the English are whiny and the plural version of the four letter c word. It is not a descriptor, a descriptor is a term used in Libraries,Website design in fact anywhere a database needs a way to index information for easy future retrieval. It was coined by Calvin Northrup Mooers the American computer scientist in 1948.

Shut up you green fucker.

[ono]

Nah I'm not bored of it, I just think many of the situations are rather sad or amusing depending on the circumstances.


BTW, if I were to call Miles a whiny English cunt, am I being prejudice against the English? Or is that a descriptor?

You'd be bang on.

[Kev]

For example, Bilbo, in Brooklyn recently, swastikas and KKK were spray-painted in a religious jewish area. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/ny...f=antisemitism Given the historical context, nazis killed millions of jews, the kkk strung jews up in the south, it is more hurtful than if the spray-paint was fat bastards.

Actually I completely agree with you on this, and with master regarding Stephen Lawrence. I would also see use of the N word as a direct racial attack. But footballers slagging each other off and a caddy slagging of his former employee and friend has no racial subtext imo and to claim so trivialises real racism.

As to the caddy just calling him an asshole if he wasn't racist rather than a black asshole I totally disagree. All insults are preceeded by a personal slur. It's very unnatural to make an insult without it. Try it. Do you call someone a bastard, or fat bastard, ugly bastard, ginger bastard, whiny bastard etc? There is always a descriptive that prefaces the swear word, always. It's always the thing that stands out to most define that person as well. For Tiger its being black.

It is precisely because you think Tiger Woods (womanising Hypocrite that he is) being black, is his most defining characteristic and that you then throw black into the same territory as fat, ugly and ginger that you fail to see the inherent racism in calling someone a black asshole. White fat bastard, White ugly bastard, both racist,Ginger Bastard not racist but more offensive than bastard.

How many other elite level golfers are black? Being black IS Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers. If he was a basketball player or boxer it wouldn't be, but his colour is what stands out in the golfing world and in my opinion its a weird reverse positive racism that people like you try to adopt, pretending everyone is the same colour.

[ono]

For example, Bilbo, in Brooklyn recently, swastikas and KKK were spray-painted in a religious jewish area. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/ny...f=antisemitism Given the historical context, nazis killed millions of jews, the kkk strung jews up in the south, it is more hurtful than if the spray-paint was fat bastards.

Actually I completely agree with you on this, and with master regarding Stephen Lawrence. I would also see use of the N word as a direct racial attack. But footballers slagging each other off and a caddy slagging of his former employee and friend has no racial subtext imo and to claim so trivialises real racism.

As to the caddy just calling him an asshole if he wasn't racist rather than a black asshole I totally disagree. All insults are preceeded by a personal slur. It's very unnatural to make an insult without it. Try it. Do you call someone a bastard, or fat bastard, ugly bastard, ginger bastard, whiny bastard etc? There is always a descriptive that prefaces the swear word, always. It's always the thing that stands out to most define that person as well. For Tiger its being black.

It is precisely because you think Tiger Woods (womanising Hypocrite that he is) being black, is his most defining characteristic and that you then throw black into the same territory as fat, ugly and ginger that you fail to see the inherent racism in calling someone a black asshole. White fat bastard, White ugly bastard, both racist,Ginger Bastard not racist but more offensive than bastard.

How many other elite level golfers are black? Being black IS Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers. If he was a basketball player or boxer it wouldn't be, but his colour is what stands out in the golfing world and in my opinion its a weird reverse positive racism that people like you try to adopt, pretending everyone is the same colour.

Trudat....as a black man once said.

[Fenster]

Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers is that he's one of the greatest ever players.

Child prodigy, unbeliveable amateur, 14 majors, over 100 tournament wins, successfully represented America am/pro.

It's not being black that makes him stand out. It's being an utter golfing genius. (well, was).

[El Kabong]

The caddy is Australian....he obviously doesn't know better, they still think blackface is a laugh riot

[Master]

The caddy is Australian....he obviously doesn't know better, they still think blackface is a laugh riot

Australian history is as bad on racism as England and US.

[Mark TKO]

whats blackface ??

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

For example, Bilbo, in Brooklyn recently, swastikas and KKK were spray-painted in a religious jewish area. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/ny...f=antisemitism Given the historical context, nazis killed millions of jews, the kkk strung jews up in the south, it is more hurtful than if the spray-paint was fat bastards.

Actually I completely agree with you on this, and with master regarding Stephen Lawrence. I would also see use of the N word as a direct racial attack. But footballers slagging each other off and a caddy slagging of his former employee and friend has no racial subtext imo and to claim so trivialises real racism.

As to the caddy just calling him an asshole if he wasn't racist rather than a black asshole I totally disagree. All insults are preceeded by a personal slur. It's very unnatural to make an insult without it. Try it. Do you call someone a bastard, or fat bastard, ugly bastard, ginger bastard, whiny bastard etc? There is always a descriptive that prefaces the swear word, always. It's always the thing that stands out to most define that person as well. For Tiger its being black.

It is precisely because you think Tiger Woods (womanising Hypocrite that he is) being black, is his most defining characteristic and that you then throw black into the same territory as fat, ugly and ginger that you fail to see the inherent racism in calling someone a black asshole. White fat bastard, White ugly bastard, both racist,Ginger Bastard not racist but more offensive than bastard.

How many other elite level golfers are black? Being black IS Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers. If he was a basketball player or boxer it wouldn't be, but his colour is what stands out in the golfing world and in my opinion its a weird reverse positive racism that people like you try to adopt, pretending everyone is the same colour.

Trudat....as a black man once said.

never let the truth get in the way of some good ol' ownage.