Authenticy in broadcasting and scoring of boxing matches - example: JMM vs Pac

[InTheNeutralCorner]

honestly man this thread is a bit far fetched

to suggest that everytime marquez landed cleanly the HBO commentators missed it and thats why they scored it for pac

I wasn't at all suggesting that the HBO commentators missed all of Marquez's offense. As ICB just clarified, I only said that their praising of Pac was above and beyond what was actually happening at the time.. and on the flip-side, they didn't speak up for a few key Marquez moments. That is all. It just begs to question.
Although maybe you're right - maybe this whole conspiracy web that I've mapped out is a bit far fetched.... how am I going to know without discussion?

i watched the primetime version and i think it was opposite to what you are describing

pac would land and there would be little comment and marquez would land an equal punch and they would all ejaculate

there is no conspiracy, it was a very close fight, i thought pac won you didnt, and its reasonably evenly split, yes there is probably more for marquez but the split of opinion is a lot closer than the pro marquez mob are making out

You mean there is really two versions of the fight: HBO and Primetime. Just like fan johnny, I thought there is only the HBO broadcast and the rest just picks up on that broadcast but uses different commentators.

Where did they show the Primetime version?

[erics44]

honestly man this thread is a bit far fetched

to suggest that everytime marquez landed cleanly the HBO commentators missed it and thats why they scored it for pac

I wasn't at all suggesting that the HBO commentators missed all of Marquez's offense. As ICB just clarified, I only said that their praising of Pac was above and beyond what was actually happening at the time.. and on the flip-side, they didn't speak up for a few key Marquez moments. That is all. It just begs to question.
Although maybe you're right - maybe this whole conspiracy web that I've mapped out is a bit far fetched.... how am I going to know without discussion?

i watched the primetime version and i think it was opposite to what you are describing

pac would land and there would be little comment and marquez would land an equal punch and they would all ejaculate

there is no conspiracy, it was a very close fight, i thought pac won you didnt, and its reasonably evenly split, yes there is probably more for marquez but the split of opinion is a lot closer than the pro marquez mob are making out

You mean there is really two versions of the fight: HBO and Primetime. Just like fan johnny, I thought there is only the HBO broadcast and the rest just picks up on that broadcast but uses different commentators.

Where did they show the Primetime version?

on Primetime

you could watch the same fight commentated on by 10 different sets of commentators and get different angles on the fight and your opinion will no doubt be influence (not neccessarily swayed) by the commentating you are listening to

its not supprising that such a close fight was seen so differently by 2 different sets of commentators

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I thought there is only the HBO broadcast and the rest just picks up on that broadcast but uses different commentators. [/B]

Where did they show the Primetime version?

on Primetime

you could watch the same fight commentated on by 10 different sets of commentators and get different angles on the fight and your opinion will no doubt be influence (not neccessarily swayed) by the commentating you are listening to

its not supprising that such a close fight was seen so differently by 2 different sets of commentators

I mean which country? Was that Primetime also shown in the US?

[CFH]

I thought there is only the HBO broadcast and the rest just picks up on that broadcast but uses different commentators. [/B]

Where did they show the Primetime version?

on Primetime

you could watch the same fight commentated on by 10 different sets of commentators and get different angles on the fight and your opinion will no doubt be influence (not neccessarily swayed) by the commentating you are listening to

its not supprising that such a close fight was seen so differently by 2 different sets of commentators

I mean which country? Was that Primetime also shown in the US?

I'm pretty sure Primetime is in the UK.

[fan johnny]

I thought there is only the HBO broadcast and the rest just picks up on that broadcast but uses different commentators. [/B]

Where did they show the Primetime version?

on Primetime

you could watch the same fight commentated on by 10 different sets of commentators and get different angles on the fight and your opinion will no doubt be influence (not neccessarily swayed) by the commentating you are listening to

its not supprising that such a close fight was seen so differently by 2 different sets of commentators

I mean which country? Was that Primetime also shown in the US?

I'm pretty sure Primetime is in the UK.

It's the exact same HBO telecast view.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Original.../8/T_EpGRREqXg

[erics44]

I thought there is only the HBO broadcast and the rest just picks up on that broadcast but uses different commentators. [/B]

Where did they show the Primetime version?

on Primetime

you could watch the same fight commentated on by 10 different sets of commentators and get different angles on the fight and your opinion will no doubt be influence (not neccessarily swayed) by the commentating you are listening to

its not supprising that such a close fight was seen so differently by 2 different sets of commentators

I mean which country? Was that Primetime also shown in the US?

I'm pretty sure Primetime is in the UK.

It's the exact same HBO telecast view.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Original.../8/T_EpGRREqXg

so the HBO version is the same as the primetime version and someone was telling me they were pro pac?

this really is a mixed up fight

[Mattyhitman]

Best thing to do is not listen to the commentators. Turn the volume down and watch the fight, then see how differently ya score to when ya listening to commentators.
As for camera angle, I cannot see how different it would be. Generally ya get 1/2 camera's ringside, invariably operated by the same broadcaster.

[SweetPea]

I watched the fight again on Friday, and it fully sunk in just how bad of a job was done by Lampley, Steward and Lederman.

Lampley exploded any time Pacquiao did anything, and was dead silent during a dozen different flush shots landed by Marquez.

Steward didn't say anything other than "Manny just looks so strong", which had nothing to do with how the fight was actually going.

Then, later in the fight, when Lederman was explaining why he had Pacquiao so far ahead, he said he thought Pacquiao was the better defensive fighter because "Marquez's face is swelling, Manny's isn't." He completely ignored the fact that Manny had blood pouring from his mouth.

I thought Kellerman did a very good job, especially considering that the 3 guys next to him were terrible.