Anyone else bored of 'racism' yet?

[Kev]

For example, Bilbo, in Brooklyn recently, swastikas and KKK were spray-painted in a religious jewish area. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/ny...f=antisemitism Given the historical context, nazis killed millions of jews, the kkk strung jews up in the south, it is more hurtful than if the spray-paint was fat bastards.

Actually I completely agree with you on this, and with master regarding Stephen Lawrence. I would also see use of the N word as a direct racial attack. But footballers slagging each other off and a caddy slagging of his former employee and friend has no racial subtext imo and to claim so trivialises real racism.

As to the caddy just calling him an asshole if he wasn't racist rather than a black asshole I totally disagree. All insults are preceeded by a personal slur. It's very unnatural to make an insult without it. Try it. Do you call someone a bastard, or fat bastard, ugly bastard, ginger bastard, whiny bastard etc? There is always a descriptive that prefaces the swear word, always. It's always the thing that stands out to most define that person as well. For Tiger its being black.

It is precisely because you think Tiger Woods (womanising Hypocrite that he is) being black, is his most defining characteristic and that you then throw black into the same territory as fat, ugly and ginger that you fail to see the inherent racism in calling someone a black asshole. White fat bastard, White ugly bastard, both racist,Ginger Bastard not racist but more offensive than bastard.

How many other elite level golfers are black? Being black IS Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers. If he was a basketball player or boxer it wouldn't be, but his colour is what stands out in the golfing world and in my opinion its a weird reverse positive racism that people like you try to adopt, pretending everyone is the same colour.

[ono]

For example, Bilbo, in Brooklyn recently, swastikas and KKK were spray-painted in a religious jewish area. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/ny...f=antisemitism Given the historical context, nazis killed millions of jews, the kkk strung jews up in the south, it is more hurtful than if the spray-paint was fat bastards.

Actually I completely agree with you on this, and with master regarding Stephen Lawrence. I would also see use of the N word as a direct racial attack. But footballers slagging each other off and a caddy slagging of his former employee and friend has no racial subtext imo and to claim so trivialises real racism.

As to the caddy just calling him an asshole if he wasn't racist rather than a black asshole I totally disagree. All insults are preceeded by a personal slur. It's very unnatural to make an insult without it. Try it. Do you call someone a bastard, or fat bastard, ugly bastard, ginger bastard, whiny bastard etc? There is always a descriptive that prefaces the swear word, always. It's always the thing that stands out to most define that person as well. For Tiger its being black.

It is precisely because you think Tiger Woods (womanising Hypocrite that he is) being black, is his most defining characteristic and that you then throw black into the same territory as fat, ugly and ginger that you fail to see the inherent racism in calling someone a black asshole. White fat bastard, White ugly bastard, both racist,Ginger Bastard not racist but more offensive than bastard.

How many other elite level golfers are black? Being black IS Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers. If he was a basketball player or boxer it wouldn't be, but his colour is what stands out in the golfing world and in my opinion its a weird reverse positive racism that people like you try to adopt, pretending everyone is the same colour.

Trudat....as a black man once said.

[Fenster]

Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers is that he's one of the greatest ever players.

Child prodigy, unbeliveable amateur, 14 majors, over 100 tournament wins, successfully represented America am/pro.

It's not being black that makes him stand out. It's being an utter golfing genius. (well, was).

[El Kabong]

The caddy is Australian....he obviously doesn't know better, they still think blackface is a laugh riot

[Master]

The caddy is Australian....he obviously doesn't know better, they still think blackface is a laugh riot

Australian history is as bad on racism as England and US.

[Mark TKO]

whats blackface ??

[Kev]

Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers is that he's one of the greatest ever players.

Child prodigy, unbeliveable amateur, 14 majors, over 100 tournament wins, successfully represented America am/pro.

It's not being black that makes him stand out. It's being an utter golfing genius. (well, was).

For sure he's a great player, but how many other leading golfers are black?

I guess Obama is famous for being the first American President with big ears right?

He's black. His asshole is black. By all accounts he is an asshole. Thus calling him a black asshole is entirely factually correct right?

So why the objection? The people objecting are being racist, as they assume that to mention a person being black is a negative.

Greenbeanz went even further and showed that he felt being ginger, overweight or wearing glasses were also 'bad things' and thus sae them in a negative light, as if it would be wrong to draw attention to them.

I'm sick of these racist, judgemental people.

[Fenster]

If you can cite examples of white people calling other white people "white arsehole" then i'll agree.

However, I don't believe Steve Williams would have called his current employer a "white arsehole" (had they fallen out), he'd have just said "arsehole," so the "black" bit seems pretty unnecessary to me unless there's some other meaning... Apart from him stating a FACT, of course, because the whole world needed telling Tiger Woods is black (well asian/black (is that racist?).. shit

[Kev]

If you can cite examples of white people calling other white people "white arsehole" then i'll agree.

However, I don't believe Steve Williams would have called his current employer a "white arsehole" (had they fallen out), he'd have just said "arsehole," so the "black" bit seems pretty unnecessary to me unless there's some other meaning... Apart from him stating a FACT, of course, because the whole world needed telling Tiger Woods is black (well asian/black (is that racist?).. shit

Well watch any film and you will know that black always precedes ass when talking a black person's bottom. "My black ass", "Your black ass", "His black ass" etc. It's just a common phrasing that black people themselves use all the time.

I guess a white equivilant would be "white trash". How often do you hear the term "black trash"? Black ass, and white trash are just common sayings well known to all.

If Tiger had called his caddy white trash would their be a big hullaballo? I'm guessing not.

Incidently if you think the caddy was being racist, what was his intention? How was he planning to subjugate his multi millionare former employer? See, racism is the act of discriminating against somebody on the basis of their colour, either through deprivation of rights, property, dignity, threats to their safety, enslavement, persecution etc. How does calling Tiger Woods a black asshole put Tiger at risk of such things?

It can't be racism. It's just name calling.

[Preme]

Fuck me you are all still going on about this thread? going to have to make another post "Is anyone else bored of the "Anyone else bored of 'racism' yet? thread yet?"

You all need to get out more.

But thanks for coming.

[Fenster]

I never said he was racist.

He brought race into it by saying "black," so was called on the meaning of it. Like you said he was probably just making a factual statement in case people didn't realise Tiger was black.

I have no doubt in future he will call Adam Scott (his current employer) "white - asshole, trash, cunt"

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers is that he's one of the greatest ever players.

Child prodigy, unbeliveable amateur, 14 majors, over 100 tournament wins, successfully represented America am/pro.

It's not being black that makes him stand out. It's being an utter golfing genius. (well, was).

For sure he's a great player, but how many other leading golfers are black?

I guess Obama is famous for being the first American President with big ears right?

He's black. His asshole is black. By all accounts he is an asshole. Thus calling him a black asshole is entirely factually correct right?

So why the objection? The people objecting are being racist, as they assume that to mention a person being black is a negative.

Greenbeanz went even further and showed that he felt being ginger, overweight or wearing glasses were also 'bad things' and thus sae them in a negative light, as if it would be wrong to draw attention to them.

I'm sick of these racist, judgemental people.

The blackest thing about Obama is his wife

Seriously though Bil, neither Tiger or Obama are black.

[Ghost]

Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers is that he's one of the greatest ever players.

Child prodigy, unbeliveable amateur, 14 majors, over 100 tournament wins, successfully represented America am/pro.

It's not being black that makes him stand out. It's being an utter golfing genius. (well, was).

For sure he's a great player, but how many other leading golfers are black?

I guess Obama is famous for being the first American President with big ears right?

He's black. His asshole is black. By all accounts he is an asshole. Thus calling him a black asshole is entirely factually correct right?

So why the objection? The people objecting are being racist, as they assume that to mention a person being black is a negative.

Greenbeanz went even further and showed that he felt being ginger, overweight or wearing glasses were also 'bad things' and thus sae them in a negative light, as if it would be wrong to draw attention to them.

I'm sick of these racist, judgemental people.

The blackest thing about Obama is his wife

Seriously though Bil, neither Tiger or Obama are black.

But they ain't white, maybe coco or coffee and cream, but ain't white.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers is that he's one of the greatest ever players.

Child prodigy, unbeliveable amateur, 14 majors, over 100 tournament wins, successfully represented America am/pro.

It's not being black that makes him stand out. It's being an utter golfing genius. (well, was).

For sure he's a great player, but how many other leading golfers are black?

I guess Obama is famous for being the first American President with big ears right?

He's black. His asshole is black. By all accounts he is an asshole. Thus calling him a black asshole is entirely factually correct right?

So why the objection? The people objecting are being racist, as they assume that to mention a person being black is a negative.

Greenbeanz went even further and showed that he felt being ginger, overweight or wearing glasses were also 'bad things' and thus sae them in a negative light, as if it would be wrong to draw attention to them.

I'm sick of these racist, judgemental people.

The blackest thing about Obama is his wife

Seriously though Bil, neither Tiger or Obama are black.

But they ain't white, maybe coco or coffee and cream, but ain't white.

Aaah I see!

So they are famous for what they are not moreso than what they are. To the effect that they are regarded as something that they are not, almost as conformation of what they will never be.

[VictorCharlie]

Tiger Woods most defining characteristic in relation to other golfers is that he's one of the greatest ever players.

Child prodigy, unbeliveable amateur, 14 majors, over 100 tournament wins, successfully represented America am/pro.

It's not being black that makes him stand out. It's being an utter golfing genius. (well, was).

For sure he's a great player, but how many other leading golfers are black?

I guess Obama is famous for being the first American President with big ears right?

He's black. His asshole is black. By all accounts he is an asshole. Thus calling him a black asshole is entirely factually correct right?

So why the objection? The people objecting are being racist, as they assume that to mention a person being black is a negative.

Greenbeanz went even further and showed that he felt being ginger, overweight or wearing glasses were also 'bad things' and thus sae them in a negative light, as if it would be wrong to draw attention to them.

I'm sick of these racist, judgemental people.

The blackest thing about Obama is his wife

Seriously though Bil, neither Tiger or Obama are black.

Really? What constitutes black then? Do you say this b/c neither of them have two black parents? I've never met a black man that didn't claim both of them.