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[El Kabong]

So you're telling me that an old Foreman wouldn't even beat a post-prison "poorly trained" Mike Tyson as well as Prime Foreman wouldn't beat Prime Tyson?

You're right, Frazier was a different beast than Tyson, because Frazier built up steam as the fight wore on, Tyson lost it. Joe Frazier was an all time great and would have been difficult if not impossible for damn near anyone to beat as easily as Foreman did.

When Tyson didn't train properly he lacked head movement, he didn't use angles, he threw 1-2 punches at a time, very few if any combinations, had piss poor stamina and allowed himself to get tied up on the inside. Those shortcomings would make it an easy night's work for Foreman.

96-92, 96-92, 100-93 (the scores of the first fight vs Holyfield) don't seem all that close hell Foreman did very well vs Holyfield landing 41% of his punches even though he was slowed by using the cross block defense and so he couldn't counter effectively.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree here....everything that Foreman had to offer at any point in Tyson's career was just too much

[Boxer4life]

So you're telling me that an old Foreman wouldn't even beat a post-prison "poorly trained" Mike Tyson as well as Prime Foreman wouldn't beat Prime Tyson?

You're right, Frazier was a different beast than Tyson, because Frazier built up steam as the fight wore on, Tyson lost it. Joe Frazier was an all time great and would have been difficult if not impossible for damn near anyone to beat as easily as Foreman did.

When Tyson didn't train properly he lacked head movement, he didn't use angles, he threw 1-2 punches at a time, very few if any combinations, had piss poor stamina and allowed himself to get tied up on the inside. Those shortcomings would make it an easy night's work for Foreman.

96-92, 96-92, 100-93 (the scores of the first fight vs Holyfield) don't seem all that close hell Foreman did very well vs Holyfield landing 41% of his punches even though he was slowed by using the cross block defense and so he couldn't counter effectively.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree here....everything that Foreman had to offer at any point in Tyson's career was just too much

that sounded like a description of old george, but very well, agree to disagree, whats sad is that well never know, this is why i do despise some fighters for not making fights happen when need be

[El Kabong]

....the thing is George Foreman won the lineal championship that way. Meanwhile Tyson struggled to be dominant as a heavyweight ever again...sure he beat the B level fighters, but he'll I can't name you the last A list heavyweight Tyson beat.

[Boxer4life]

Right but what a list heavyweight did old George beat?

[Dark Lord Al]

When Tyson was champ , and Foreman returned , i did feel it would be a very very interesting matchup, i would have loved to see Tyson be hit be a really big puncher.

[ross]

When Tyson was champ , and Foreman returned , i did feel it would be a very very interesting matchup, i would have loved to see Tyson be hit be a really big puncher.

Lewis is probably the biggest puncher the division has had over the last 20 years? Mike took plenty of his shots and had to be pushed down.

[El Kabong]

When Tyson was champ , and Foreman returned , i did feel it would be a very very interesting matchup, i would have loved to see Tyson be hit be a really big puncher.

Lewis is probably the biggest puncher the division has had over the last 20 years? Mike took plenty of his shots and had to be pushed down.

....How many rounds did Mike win? THANK YOU

[Dark Lord Al]

When Tyson was champ , and Foreman returned , i did feel it would be a very very interesting matchup, i would have loved to see Tyson be hit be a really big puncher.

Lewis is probably the biggest puncher the division has had over the last 20 years? Mike took plenty of his shots and had to be pushed down.

I was being specific in my comment , at the time id have loved to have seen Foreman v Tyson , and of course Tyson would have thrown plenty of bombs to .

Just for the record how many big shots did Lewis take from Tyson ?

[El Kabong]

Right but what a list heavyweight did old George beat?

At the time Michael Moorer was undefeated and looking pretty good...he just got done beating Holyfield.