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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    Thats because tyson didnt get to fight Michael moorer, Goerge comeback was planned perfectly, the only outstanding guy he fought was evander and he lost, and tyson has fought enough names in his prime to show us what he would do to just about anybody, michael spinks and bruno aren't exactly a list but after what he did to them, its hard to argue anyone else would do better, espeacially grilled sausage eating george


    Oh and evanders big ass head stopped tyson
    George was up for fighting anyone ESPECIALLY Tyson who was the perfect style match for Foreman. Tyson would come straight in, not move his head, be easy to land the 1-2 on, and be easy to tie up and out muscle on the inside.

    As for who Foreman fought in his comeback compared to who Tyson fought after prison...you tell me who's more dangerous: Bert Cooper, Gerry Cooney, Evander Holyfield, Pierre Coetzer, Tommy Morrison or Peter McNeely, Buster Mathis Jr., Frank Bruno, and Bruce Seldon

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    Mike had 3 stages to his career. When he wasnt under King, when he was with King and when he left prison.

    When Mike wasnt under King he was the nearest any heavy has looked at unbeatable. Even though Marciano retired undefeated, he got dropped and struggled with an old light heavy, he didnt have long left.

    Alot of the media weresaying that Mike is invincible and is close to taking Alis greatest crown. Its only since King spoilt him that people are completely disregarding what he did with Rooney as his trainer.

    Post prison Mike was just getting paid and was being used to make money.

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    This Tyson, although on the slide, was still able to beat Foreman and you guys are perpetuating a myth. Bruno and Bonecrusher were monster punchers and they only hurt him for a short while. Old George may have developed a better jab than when he was young but he was far too slow. Tyson would have beat him to the punch and have the sense to punch him at angles and not stand toe to toe with him. The punches Holyfield landed unanswered in his fight with Foreman would have resulted in a stoppage if Tyson had landed them. Prime Foreman would have been a different story but this old version who was carefully managed and manoeuvred would not last with Tyson at that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    Thats because tyson didnt get to fight Michael moorer, Goerge comeback was planned perfectly, the only outstanding guy he fought was evander and he lost, and tyson has fought enough names in his prime to show us what he would do to just about anybody, michael spinks and bruno aren't exactly a list but after what he did to them, its hard to argue anyone else would do better, espeacially grilled sausage eating george


    Oh and evanders big ass head stopped tyson
    George was up for fighting anyone ESPECIALLY Tyson who was the perfect style match for Foreman. Tyson would come straight in, not move his head, be easy to land the 1-2 on, and be easy to tie up and out muscle on the inside.

    As for who Foreman fought in his comeback compared to who Tyson fought after prison...you tell me who's more dangerous: Bert Cooper, Gerry Cooney, Evander Holyfield, Pierre Coetzer, Tommy Morrison or Peter McNeely, Buster Mathis Jr., Frank Bruno, and Bruce Seldon

    George was way to easy to hit, Tyson was THE hardest puncher in his era, George would get his clock cleaned, and actually that list looks very similar, especially considering he lost to evander and MORRISON, who tyson would have demolished, tommy was a C fighter on his BEST day

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    Tommy Morrison was another fighter that Tyson didn't fight and Tommy did not fight Foreman the way Tyson would have. Tyson didn't have it in him to stick and move. Holyfield went tooth and nail with Foreman....Mike Tyson got the shit kicked out of him bar 1 big punch to start the fight, after that it was ALL Evander. Also, Foreman was only ever stopped 1 time....it's not like the guy didn't face big punchers either: Frazier, Ron Lyle, Cooney, Bert Cooper. Comparing Foreman's power to Smith, Ruddock, and Bruno is blasphemy!!! Foreman's chin and power allowed him to become the oldest ever heavyweight champion, if you think Mike Tyson could have undone him with 1 or 2 haymakers you're shrooming!

    OK if Tyson was great with Rooney then why weren't other heavyweights great with Rooney? If Don King ruined Tyson, then why were other heavyweights able to have success with him? Mike Tyson was a great fighter, but he had flaws and who better to exploit those flaws than George Foreman? Mike Tyson once claimed he was Sonny Liston....Well George Foreman studied under Sonny Liston, was better than Sonny Liston, was meaner than Sonny Liston, and would have made Tyson cry like a little school girl.

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    Ask Tim Witherspoon what working with King was like. Why Foreman wouldnt sign the Tyson fight, why Lewis would never work with King.

    Its not so much Rooney but the style that D'Amato created. Mike needs a trainer that knows that style which is more a system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    As for who Foreman fought in his comeback compared to who Tyson fought after prison...you tell me who's more dangerous: Bert Cooper, Gerry Cooney, Evander Holyfield, Pierre Coetzer, Tommy Morrison or Peter McNeely, Buster Mathis Jr., Frank Bruno, and Bruce Seldon
    I think there's some overlap there. IMO, the Bruno and Seldon that Tyson fought were pretty clearly more dangerous than the Cooper, Cooney, and Coetzer that Foreman fought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    As for who Foreman fought in his comeback compared to who Tyson fought after prison...you tell me who's more dangerous: Bert Cooper, Gerry Cooney, Evander Holyfield, Pierre Coetzer, Tommy Morrison or Peter McNeely, Buster Mathis Jr., Frank Bruno, and Bruce Seldon
    I think there's some overlap there. IMO, the Bruno and Seldon that Tyson fought were pretty clearly more dangerous than the Cooper, Cooney, and Coetzer that Foreman fought.
    Bruno retired directly after the Tyson rematch (which is the one I was mentioning)...as for Bruce Seldon being dangerous

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    They were still both active (unlike Cooney) and winning fights against reasonably good competition (unlike Coetzer, coming off of two successive KO losses (and who, like Bruno, retired immediately after the fight in question) and Cooper (who was batting about .500 over the two years going into the Foreman fight, against less-than-stellar competition).

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    They were still both active (unlike Cooney) and winning fights against reasonably good competition (unlike Coetzer, coming off of two successive KO losses (and who, like Bruno, retired immediately after the fight in question) and Cooper (who was batting about .500 over the two years going into the Foreman fight, against less-than-stellar competition).
    ...and who ended up being Heavyweight Champion of the World? Thank you

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    ...as opposed to Seldon, who was a heavyweight champion at the time Tyson fought him. You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    ...as opposed to Seldon, who was a heavyweight champion at the time Tyson fought him. You're welcome.
    and what a great champion Seldon was, i once heard a terrible rumour that Seldon was wearing shorts made by pampers the night he went out on his shield when he fought Tyson.

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