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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    I'm actually inclined to believe Helenius about his right hand. Would explain why he didn't throw it much.

    Still, doesn't change the fact that Chisora should have won.

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I'm actually inclined to believe Helenius about his right hand. Would explain why he didn't throw it much.

    Still, doesn't change the fact that Chisora should have won.
    Maybe he did have a bad hand,

    But someone who was seen as he biggest challenge to the klits loses 11 out of 12 rounds against chisora?
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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I'm actually inclined to believe Helenius about his right hand. Would explain why he didn't throw it much.

    Still, doesn't change the fact that Chisora should have won.
    Maybe he did have a bad hand,

    But someone who was seen as he biggest challenge to the klits loses 11 out of 12 rounds against chisora?
    No rational person saw, or sees, Helenius as a real threat to either Klitschko. He might be some day, but he's still little more than a prospect IMO.

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Helenius-Chisora shows how exciting the heavyweight division can be if more prospects and boxers with good records are matched against each other. An absolute war for 36 minutes, normally ending with a robbery. But robberies aren't interesting anymore, since we have one almost every week. I would like to see Povetkin against Fury or Dimitrenko

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    scored it 9-3 Chisora. as a yank I have no fighter in this one. I think closest that would have been acceptable would have been 8-4 Chisora.

    Chisora got inside on Helenius and went to the body starting very early. It took alot of Helenius.

    Helenius didn't seem to like the pace. Too fast for him. Chisora didn't allow him to fight at the methodical pace he likes.

    Helenius would try to jab but he was not doing so with alot of snap on it. While other fighters Helenius has faced will stay back and just move away from the jab, Chisora just went past it and came on in.

    I hate today's fighters (especially HWs). Guys throw a jab and the opponent (even if not hit) backs away. Chisora did what you should do, when a jab misses, get your ass in there and counter. Go forward. Show aggression.


    Helenius looked poor, Chisora looked very energetic, aggressive, and better stamina than you normally see from him.

    The Chisora that was in there tonight wins a rematch with Fury. That is what I'd ask for if I was Chisora. You aren't going to get Helenius to a neutral location to fight, and you can't get a decision in Helenius hometown, so why fight him again....

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Under any angle of the stitches, I can't see how Helenius could win a split... 9-3 at very best for Chisora, it's a disgrace but Germany is apparently familiar with that kind of home cook verdict.
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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Under any angle of the stitches, I can't see how Helenius could win a split... 9-3 at very best for Chisora, it's a disgrace but Germany is apparently familiar with that kind of home cook verdict.
    Lets be honest. Any time you go into an fighter's hometown then there is going to be homecooking. Ask Kotelnik about winning a decision against Alexander in St. Louis. Ask any foreigner about winning a decision in the UK. Ask a foreigner about winning a decision in Germany.

    the hometown fighter is going to get anywhere from 2-3 rounds given to him alot of the time.

    Same thing for 2 guys where it isn't a hometown situation. Ask yourself who is the bigger name (or the champ) and figure 2-3 rounds are going to be given to him.

    I'm cynical but that is what you see on a regular basis. Hometown guys and bigger name guys will get scores they shouldn't be getting.

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Under any angle of the stitches, I can't see how Helenius could win a split... 9-3 at very best for Chisora, it's a disgrace but Germany is apparently familiar with that kind of home cook verdict.
    Lets be honest. Any time you go into an fighter's hometown then there is going to be homecooking. Ask Kotelnik about winning a decision against Alexander in St. Louis. Ask any foreigner about winning a decision in the UK. Ask a foreigner about winning a decision in Germany.

    the hometown fighter is going to get anywhere from 2-3 rounds given to him alot of the time.

    Same thing for 2 guys where it isn't a hometown situation. Ask yourself who is the bigger name (or the champ) and figure 2-3 rounds are going to be given to him.

    I'm cynical but that is what you see on a regular basis. Hometown guys and bigger name guys will get scores they shouldn't be getting.
    Also if were going to hate on germany lets make sure the fight actually took place in germany, which it didnt this time.

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    it's a disgrace but Germany is apparently familiar with that kind of home cook verdict.
    It's a disgrace, but isn't just in Germany, in US is the same sh!t

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Quote Originally Posted by badr_hari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    it's a disgrace but Germany is apparently familiar with that kind of home cook verdict.
    It's a disgrace, but isn't just in Germany, in US is the same sh!t
    Yup. It's Sauerland, not Germany. Like anywhere else, it all comes down to the power and influence of the promotional agency.

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    I was really rooting for the Boz here, but he was brutally knocked out by the better man last Saturday. Povetkin looked better than he has in some while.

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    Default Re: War the boz!!!! (Povetkin - Boswell/Helenius - Chisora)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I was really rooting for the Boz here, but he was brutally knocked out by the better man last Saturday. Povetkin looked better than he has in some while.
    ...and after the fight he said "I'd like to fight..........................Tyson Fury"

    Fight Wladimir God damnit!!!


    As for The Helenius-Chisora fight, I'll have to look it up and watch it. I saw with my own eyes that Helenius had some pop (though it didn't look shocking or anything) but for him to struggle so mightily with Del Boy just goes to show you the division lacks consistency. I never thought of Helenius as a true threat to the Klitschko's, but it would be nice if someone actually gave them a challenge....the last dude to challenge Vitali was Sanders and the last guy to put up any fight vs Wlad was Thompson (not that he won rounds or anything)

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