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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Pretty clear now that the warrior who once went to war with Shane Mosley, Zab Judah, Ricardo Torres and others no longer exists. There is no warrior left in him. Warrior Cotto is now Track Meet Cotto. That performance was extremely disappointing. Yes he got the win. But anybody that thinks he showed heart is a fucking dumb ass. Margarito was coming off a brutal loss and an injury. Lot of rumors that he might be shot. The chance to massacre him is there on a silver platter. What Cotto do? He runs the whole fight. He spend all this time accusing Margarito. Saying he did this. He did that. You would think he would of gone out there looking to destroy the man who supposedly put his life in danger. But no. He instead shows up in the ring wearing his new pair of Usain Bolt's and proceeds to go out and fight like him. And to make it worse he cries like a bitch afterwards. Are you fucking kidding me? There's no crying in baseball. What the fuck makes fools think there's crying in boxing? Sad day in boxing indeed
    Margarito was the one left crying like a bitch hahaha, Cotto stood and traded with the powerless phoney Mexican once he had the fight in the bag, Cotto rocked Margarito back and forth Tony didn't flinched him, Margarito plodded forward and couldn't keep Cotto on the ropes, Miguel pushed his bitch back in to the ropes than just unloaded on him

    the sad part is that any entertaining or "great" win that Tony Margarito ever had in his entire career is now without a doubt labeled with a * right next to it, and yes that even means his wins over Cintron hahaha, for all we know the piece of shit probably even needed the wraps to get Golden Fucking Johnson out of there, again explain to me how the piece of shit is 1-3 since Plastergate
    That's just sad when you have to lie for your man. Margarito didn't want the fight stopped and never shed a tear. You really need me to provide pics of Cotto crying like a little hoe? Say the word and I'll gladly provide them for you.

    As for him being 1-3 since. Easy. He's shot. He's done as a fighter. Should retire. Take the 10 million he made in his last 2 fights and do whatever the fuck he wants

    There's a reason very few people question his wins beyound Cotto. To question his past wins means one is saying that every single commision and inspector who checked his wraps missed them. That's a lot missing by a lot of people. Moronic thinking. Nobody believes that. Minus boricuas that is

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    You know, I was somewhat disappointed in Cotto's performance too - especially early on. I also thought his gameplan was going to lead to disaster, but I was totally wrong about that.

    While he soundly outboxed Margarito and dominated the fight, he did not look like someone who was out for revenge, just someone looking for a victory.

    I think a lot of the talk in the pre-fight build up led a lot of people to think that Cotto was going to try and hurt Margarito. Aside from targeting Margarito's right eye once it began to swell, he didn't really fight with any malice.

    Cotto did spend a lot of the fight running and he did look genuinely intimidate by his opponent. He also dominated the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    You know, I was somewhat disappointed in Cotto's performance too - especially early on. I also thought his gameplan was going to lead to disaster, but I was totally wrong about that.

    While he soundly outboxed Margarito and dominated the fight, he did not look like someone who was out for revenge, just someone looking for a victory.

    I think a lot of the talk in the pre-fight build up led a lot of people to think that Cotto was going to try and hurt Margarito. Aside from targeting Margarito's right eye once it began to swell, he didn't really fight with any malice.

    Cotto did spend a lot of the fight running and he did look genuinely intimidate by his opponent. He also dominated the fight.

    See thats fair enough CFH, and actually worth responding to... But bottom line is there was going to be no sweeter revenge for Cotto THAN a victory, and clearly he wasn't going to beat Margarito going to war no matter how shot he may have been. If a guy is fighting off the backfoot but still landing good shots and winning rounds then the onus is on his opponent to make a fight of it, Margo wasn't able to do that for the vast majority of the fight and Cotto should take a lot of pride in that.

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    I agree that Cotto didn't show heart in the fight, and Margarito did. The reason for that is, Margarito was nowhere near good enough to challenge Cotto to the point where Cotto's heart was an issue. What Cotto showed were brains and skills. He'll have to face a stiffer challenge than Margarito to prove his heart. As for Margarito, he clearly wanted to continue, and would have continued, showing his heart. Props to him, but that's about all he showed. He knew exactly what Cotto was going to do - stick & move, and target the eye. And he either wasn't smart enough, or wasn't good enough, to stop him. Couldn't get him early, before the eye became a factor, couldn't change angles and protect the eye, couldn't avoid the pinpoint punches. In short, he had absolutely no answer for the ideal fight plan that Cotto executed to a T.

    I have my suspicions, but I don't know whether or not the 2008 Margarito did/could have beaten Cotto cleanly. I do know that the 2011 Margarito sure can't. Regardless of what he did or didn't do in 2008, what Margarito is doing nowadays is fighting clean. And whether it's a coincidence or not, he's no longer among the elite (nor will he be again), and Cotto is. And he doesn't even have his reputation intact, which is either his fault or Capetillo's. But he does have a devoted cadre of (largely nationalistic) fans. When he's a bitter old man in the old folks home, they can slap him on the back and tell him how great he used to be. They may as well start now; his glory days are in the rear view mirror, and they're not getting any closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    I agree that Cotto didn't show heart in the fight, and Margarito did. The reason for that is, Margarito was nowhere near good enough to challenge Cotto to the point where Cotto's heart was an issue. What Cotto showed were brains and skills. He'll have to face a stiffer challenge than Margarito to prove his heart. As for Margarito, he clearly wanted to continue, and would have continued, showing his heart. Props to him, but that's about all he showed. He knew exactly what Cotto was going to do - stick & move, and target the eye. And he either wasn't smart enough, or wasn't good enough, to stop him. Couldn't get him early, before the eye became a factor, couldn't change angles and protect the eye, couldn't avoid the pinpoint punches. In short, he had absolutely no answer for the ideal fight plan that Cotto executed to a T.

    I have my suspicions, but I don't know whether or not the 2008 Margarito did/could have beaten Cotto cleanly. I do know that the 2011 Margarito sure can't. Regardless of what he did or didn't do in 2008, what Margarito is doing nowadays is fighting clean. And whether it's a coincidence or not, he's no longer among the elite (nor will he be again), and Cotto is. And he doesn't even have his reputation intact, which is either his fault or Capetillo's. But he does have a devoted cadre of (largely nationalistic) fans. When he's a bitter old man in the old folks home, they can slap him on the back and tell him how great he used to be. They may as well start now; his glory days are in the rear view mirror, and they're not getting any closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    You know, I was somewhat disappointed in Cotto's performance too - especially early on. I also thought his gameplan was going to lead to disaster, but I was totally wrong about that.

    While he soundly outboxed Margarito and dominated the fight, he did not look like someone who was out for revenge, just someone looking for a victory.

    I think a lot of the talk in the pre-fight build up led a lot of people to think that Cotto was going to try and hurt Margarito. Aside from targeting Margarito's right eye once it began to swell, he didn't really fight with any malice.

    Cotto did spend a lot of the fight running and he did look genuinely intimidate by his opponent. He also dominated the fight.

    See thats fair enough CFH, and actually worth responding to... But bottom line is there was going to be no sweeter revenge for Cotto THAN a victory, and clearly he wasn't going to beat Margarito going to war no matter how shot he may have been. If a guy is fighting off the backfoot but still landing good shots and winning rounds then the onus is on his opponent to make a fight of it, Margo wasn't able to do that for the vast majority of the fight and Cotto should take a lot of pride in that.
    That's fair. I think a lot of my initial disappointment in the way Cotto was fighting was that I thought it was going to lead to him getting stopped again. Obviously that didn't happen.

    I do think that he looked intimidated and wary of Margarito's power, especially at first, but he comprehensively out-boxed Margarito and fucked up that eye in the process. Like Leddermen said, it is possible to win a fight by running.

    The bottom line is that Cotto won decisively, albeit in a somewhat (for me at least) disappointing manner. That's much better than him going to war and losing.

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    I kind of agree with VD. Cotto held more and did a lot of moving.

    He was extremely respectful of a fighter who was seemingly now without his wraps and who nonetheless marked him up the same as the previous fight at the end of the 9th.

    Still, Cotto was the better boxer. No doubt about that. No way as tough as Margarito though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    He was extremely respectful of a fighter who was seemingly now without his wraps and who nonetheless marked him up the same as the previous fight at the end of the 9th.
    That's just called being smart. See also: Leonard/Duran 2 vs. 1, and 5 out of 6 Robinson/LaMotta fights. It's not a toughman contest. Cotto knew that the only way Margarito had a chance was if they slugged it out toe-to-toe; he didn't do it. Margarito knew that Cotto was going to stick and move, and target the eye, and he had no counter.

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    Cotto beat Margarito the only way he could beat him ( which was with alot of movement and with quick clean blows).

    Cotto hasn't got the stamina of Pacquiao or the inside ability of Mosley so had he tried to beat Margarito that way he would of got beaten up.

    Cotto beat Margarito up "his" way and done it very well.

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    Cotto is a real warrior gaining revenge, he was professional, detached and emotionless. He battered Antonio and then stood back, and then battered him some more and stood back. After he won he just stood in the middle of the ring and said Fuck you Margarito. Revenge was sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Cotto is a real warrior gaining revenge, he was professional, detached and emotionless. He battered Antonio and then stood back, and then battered him some more and stood back. After he won he just stood in the middle of the ring and said Fuck you Margarito. Revenge was sweet.
    Ah come off it. He didn't stand back, he ran back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Cotto is a real warrior gaining revenge, he was professional, detached and emotionless. He battered Antonio and then stood back, and then battered him some more and stood back. After he won he just stood in the middle of the ring and said Fuck you Margarito. Revenge was sweet.
    Ah come off it. He didn't stand back, he ran back
    I was being poetic, like a martial arts movie Fearless, you have ruined the moment now.
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    Pretty clear now that the warrior who once went to war with Shane Mosley, Zab Judah, Ricardo Torres and others no longer exists. There is no warrior left in him. Warrior Cotto is now Track Meet Cotto. That performance was extremely disappointing. Yes he got the win. But anybody that thinks he showed heart is a fucking dumb ass. Margarito was coming off a brutal loss and an injury. Lot of rumors that he might be shot. The chance to massacre him is there on a silver platter. What Cotto do? He runs the whole fight. He spend all this time accusing Margarito. Saying he did this. He did that. You would think he would of gone out there looking to destroy the man who supposedly put his life in danger. But no. He instead shows up in the ring wearing his new pair of Usain Bolt's and proceeds to go out and fight like him. And to make it worse he cries like a bitch afterwards. Are you fucking kidding me? There's no crying in baseball. What the fuck makes fools think there's crying in boxing? Sad day in boxing indeed
    Margarito was the one left crying like a bitch hahaha, Cotto stood and traded with the powerless phoney Mexican once he had the fight in the bag, Cotto rocked Margarito back and forth Tony didn't flinched him, Margarito plodded forward and couldn't keep Cotto on the ropes, Miguel pushed his bitch back in to the ropes than just unloaded on him

    the sad part is that any entertaining or "great" win that Tony Margarito ever had in his entire career is now without a doubt labeled with a * right next to it, and yes that even means his wins over Cintron hahaha, for all we know the piece of shit probably even needed the wraps to get Golden Fucking Johnson out of there, again explain to me how the piece of shit is 1-3 since Plastergate
    That's just sad when you have to lie for your man. Margarito didn't want the fight stopped and never shed a tear. You really need me to provide pics of Cotto crying like a little hoe? Say the word and I'll gladly provide them for you.

    As for him being 1-3 since. Easy. He's shot. He's done as a fighter. Should retire. Take the 10 million he made in his last 2 fights and do whatever the fuck he wants

    There's a reason very few people question his wins beyound Cotto. To question his past wins means one is saying that every single commision and inspector who checked his wraps missed them. That's a lot missing by a lot of people. Moronic thinking. Nobody believes that. Minus boricuas that is
    VD you're a bitch haha suck the dick of anyone who's red white and green (well not in this case seeing how Tony is a FAKE Mexican), it's been a sad year for you, we (PR) took our hits and didn't put up bullshit excuses, Tony isn't shot, he just never was ever any good without the plaster, you can bitch, moan, and make up your own little stories, but seeing how you love to pull out "wins on paper" even if it goes down as a TKO11 W for Tony, Cotto just one upped his ass and got the same win, one round earlier, while pitching a shut out, it's boxing dipshit, not stand in front and trade, you're lucky you're little boyfriend Rios had Murray in there with him and not the likes of hell any top guy at 140 including Khan, cause that boy is about to be as "shot" as Tony is, Guerrero beats that pussy all night long, man up and shut up Venereal Disease
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    Funny. So cotto should have stood in one spot and traded with rito. He made rito look foolish. Blocking punches with his face. He destroyed rito and left him blind in one eye. Why try andwaste energy koing a guy doesn't fall. Has rito ever been koed?

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