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    Default Re: Did the eye save cotto?

    Yeah, I'm not even a fan of Margarito really and probably prefer Cotto as a fighter, but I see no point in building up the whole 'Saint Cotto got his revenge upon the Evil Satan' nonsense. It's silly. It was a decent fight and Cotto outboxed his man, but clearly there were handicaps in place. And I agree that Cotto is partially damaged too, but you can't really compare broken orbitals and eye surgery with just a beat down or two. If Margarito had done to Cotto what Pac did to himself then for sure I would be more suspicious, but Cotto simply got Margarito all wrong last time out and paid the penalty.

    Cotto fought better than Margarito against Mosley, but the same is questionable concerning the Pac fights and more so concerning Clottey. They are both decent fighters with good wins on their resume. In terms of styles they are a gruelling match and it is fun watching them. Just a darn shame about old 'one eyed Willie'. Not because I feel sorry for Margarito, but because the boxing fan in me wants to see the best against the best. Handicaps only detract and I think that was the case last weekend.

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    Default Re: Did the eye save cotto?

    No the eye didn't save him, Miguel Cotto pitched a shut out.

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    Default Re: Did the eye save cotto?

    The eye was the biggest factor in his victory, yes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    The eye was the biggest factor in his victory, yes..
    Just like Margarito's loaded gloves were for him.

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    Default Re: Did the eye save cotto?

    Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...
    Just look at the handwraps the gauze doesn't break like that, there was obviously something very wrong with those handwraps. Miguel Cotto was able to push Antonio Margarito back, and stand his ground later in the fight. It's obvious Antonio Margarito's punches had nowhere the same effect. And if Antonio Margarito attemped to cheat vs an aging Shane Mosley, a fight in which he was a pretty solid favourite. You don't think he would of cheated against an undefeated 2 weight champion in his prime ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...
    Just look at the handwraps the gauze doesn't break like that, there was obviously something very wrong with those handwraps. Miguel Cotto was able to push Antonio Margarito back, and stand his ground later in the fight. It's obvious Antonio Margarito's punches had nowhere the same effect. And if Antonio Margarito attemped to cheat vs an aging Shane Mosley, a fight in which he was a pretty solid favourite. You don't think he would of cheated against an undefeated 2 weight champion in his prime ?


    Nope because Cotto has been severely hurt by lesser fighters prior to their bout.. Ndou pushed him in the late rounds, Corley had him on queer street, even a green Torres almost got him out of there, and Judah did the same until he was low blowed out of desperation..

    With that said, Margarito had no reason to worry about Cotto to a point where he would have loaded his gloves.

    People make him out to be an ordinary puncher without plaster, but it's not true.. You can just tell by the way he throws his punches that he's a hard hitter regardless..

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    Default Re: Did the eye save cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...
    Margarito is legally innocent, but there is no doubt in my mind he used plaster of paris in his first Cotto fight. None whatsoever. To be sure, when we have known 100% Margarito didn't use plaster, against top competition, he has no wins and three losses. Just sayin...

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    Default Re: Did the eye save cotto?

    Frankly, being objective as possible, Margarito's record pre-Mosley is forever tainted. Sure, we can't know for certain whether Margarito cheated against Cotto and Cintron, but we do know that he tried to cheat against Mosley and that forever taints him. What is to say that he didn't cheat against Cotto or Cintron? In addition, the same plaster product appeared to be in his gloves for the Cotto fight as Cotto showed in the 24/7 video.

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    Default Re: Did the eye save cotto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...
    Margarito is legally innocent, but there is no doubt in my mind he used plaster of paris in his first Cotto fight. None whatsoever. To be sure, when we have known 100% Margarito didn't use plaster, against top competition, he has no wins and three losses. Just sayin...

    i believe he probably did use the wraps in the cotto fight, he was the favourite in the mosley fight build up, why start using them in a fight everyone is expecting you to win after winning a fight everyone was expecting you to lose?

    having said that there is some doubt

    I honestly believe i saw a similar pattern in this second fight as i did in the first, cotto was better prepared and also margarito was injured yet i think the last 3 rounds would have been interesting, I think there was more to suggest he didnt use the wraps in the first when considering the 2nd

    also freddy roach (studying the situation) reckoned he used the wraps for the first time in a fight after the first cintron fight, i forget which one, his corner asked him how is the punch (or something like that, i remembered the facts at the time)

    yet he did a better job on cintron the first time around

    also perhaps the mosley fight just became a mega night for margarito, a must win fight, win it and you are a superstar, so perhaps that was the only time they tried
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