Did the eye save cotto?

[FinitoElDinamita]

The eye was the biggest factor in his victory, yes..

[ICB]

The eye was the biggest factor in his victory, yes..

Just like Margarito's loaded gloves were for him.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

[ICB]

Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

Just look at the handwraps the gauze doesn't break like that, there was obviously something very wrong with those handwraps. Miguel Cotto was able to push Antonio Margarito back, and stand his ground later in the fight. It's obvious Antonio Margarito's punches had nowhere the same effect. And if Antonio Margarito attemped to cheat vs an aging Shane Mosley, a fight in which he was a pretty solid favourite. You don't think he would of cheated against an undefeated 2 weight champion in his prime ?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

Just look at the handwraps the gauze doesn't break like that, there was obviously something very wrong with those handwraps. Miguel Cotto was able to push Antonio Margarito back, and stand his ground later in the fight. It's obvious Antonio Margarito's punches had nowhere the same effect. And if Antonio Margarito attemped to cheat vs an aging Shane Mosley, a fight in which he was a pretty solid favourite. You don't think he would of cheated against an undefeated 2 weight champion in his prime ?

Nope because Cotto has been severely hurt by lesser fighters prior to their bout.. Ndou pushed him in the late rounds, Corley had him on queer street, even a green Torres almost got him out of there, and Judah did the same until he was low blowed out of desperation..

With that said, Margarito had no reason to worry about Cotto to a point where he would have loaded his gloves.

People make him out to be an ordinary puncher without plaster, but it's not true.. You can just tell by the way he throws his punches that he's a hard hitter regardless..

[ICB]

Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

Just look at the handwraps the gauze doesn't break like that, there was obviously something very wrong with those handwraps. Miguel Cotto was able to push Antonio Margarito back, and stand his ground later in the fight. It's obvious Antonio Margarito's punches had nowhere the same effect. And if Antonio Margarito attemped to cheat vs an aging Shane Mosley, a fight in which he was a pretty solid favourite. You don't think he would of cheated against an undefeated 2 weight champion in his prime ?

Nope because Cotto has been severely hurt by lesser fighters prior to their bout.. Ndou pushed him in the late rounds, Corley had him on queer street, even a green Torres almost got him out of there, and Judah did the same until he was low blowed out of desperation..

With that said, Margarito had no reason to worry about Cotto to a point where he would have loaded his gloves.

People make him out to be an ordinary puncher without plaster, but it's not true.. You can just tell by the way he throws his punches that he's a hard hitter regardless..

Actually Antonio Margarito throws alot of arm punches, he don't really throw his punches with alot of technique or bodyweight behind them. He's just very tough and is able to walkthrough opponent's shots and wear them down with sheer pressure.

As for your other statements most of those fights were at 140, where Miguel Cotto was weight drained. When he moved up he was alot more studier, and was coming off an impressive win over Shane Mosley, a guy who totally destroyed Antonio Margarito.

So why would Antonio Margarito attempt to cheat, against a guy he was heavily favoured to beat aka Shane Mosley. And not cheat in a fight where he was the underdog ? that doesn't even make sense.

And it's pretty obvious just looking at the evidence, Antonio Margarito is a cheater. The bloodstain on the handwraps, the gauze breaking which doesn't break which means it wasn't gauze.

The fact he pretty much hasn't won a round, against any good opponent since he was exposed. Or hasn't been as effective with his punches, i mean he couldn't even really dent a journeyman like Roberto Garcia.

I don't know why anyone defends Antonio Margarito, i bet the real Mexican greats are looking at him in disgust. He showed no remorse and acted like a complete jackass.

[Rantcatrat]

Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

Just look at the handwraps the gauze doesn't break like that, there was obviously something very wrong with those handwraps. Miguel Cotto was able to push Antonio Margarito back, and stand his ground later in the fight. It's obvious Antonio Margarito's punches had nowhere the same effect. And if Antonio Margarito attemped to cheat vs an aging Shane Mosley, a fight in which he was a pretty solid favourite. You don't think he would of cheated against an undefeated 2 weight champion in his prime ?

Nope because Cotto has been severely hurt by lesser fighters prior to their bout.. Ndou pushed him in the late rounds, Corley had him on queer street, even a green Torres almost got him out of there, and Judah did the same until he was low blowed out of desperation..

With that said, Margarito had no reason to worry about Cotto to a point where he would have loaded his gloves.

People make him out to be an ordinary puncher without plaster, but it's not true.. You can just tell by the way he throws his punches that he's a hard hitter regardless..

The bold part is just entirely wrong and misses the point at the same time. Margacheato had no reason to worry about Mosley either. Mosley was an old man who had struglled with Mayorga. Margacheato was a big-time favorite going into the fight with Mosley. In contrast, going into the Cotto fight, the odds were even, and many people thought Cotto would outbox Margacheato. Additionally, for Margacheato's career trajectory, the Cotto fight was much more important than the Mosley fight. The Mosley fight was supposed to be a tune-up type of fight before a bigger pay day against Mayweather or someone else.

[Rantcatrat]

Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

Margarito is legally innocent, but there is no doubt in my mind he used plaster of paris in his first Cotto fight. None whatsoever. To be sure, when we have known 100% Margarito didn't use plaster, against top competition, he has no wins and three losses. Just sayin...

[Rantcatrat]

Frankly, being objective as possible, Margarito's record pre-Mosley is forever tainted. Sure, we can't know for certain whether Margarito cheated against Cotto and Cintron, but we do know that he tried to cheat against Mosley and that forever taints him. What is to say that he didn't cheat against Cotto or Cintron? In addition, the same plaster product appeared to be in his gloves for the Cotto fight as Cotto showed in the 24/7 video.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Frankly, being objective as possible, Margarito's record pre-Mosley is forever tainted. Sure, we can't know for certain whether Margarito cheated against Cotto and Cintron, but we do know that he tried to cheat against Mosley and that forever taints him. What is to say that he didn't cheat against Cotto or Cintron? In addition, the same plaster product appeared to be in his gloves for the Cotto fight as Cotto showed in the 24/7 video.

and time and time again his own dumbass has contradicted himself, either way justice has been served and the pointy bearded bitch can crawl back to his little hole and become insignificant again

[erics44]

Until something can be proven in court, Margarito was innocent in their first bout.. Margarito beat him through durablity, pressure, and uppercuts...

Margarito is legally innocent, but there is no doubt in my mind he used plaster of paris in his first Cotto fight. None whatsoever. To be sure, when we have known 100% Margarito didn't use plaster, against top competition, he has no wins and three losses. Just sayin...

i believe he probably did use the wraps in the cotto fight, he was the favourite in the mosley fight build up, why start using them in a fight everyone is expecting you to win after winning a fight everyone was expecting you to lose?

having said that there is some doubt

I honestly believe i saw a similar pattern in this second fight as i did in the first, cotto was better prepared and also margarito was injured yet i think the last 3 rounds would have been interesting, I think there was more to suggest he didnt use the wraps in the first when considering the 2nd

also freddy roach (studying the situation) reckoned he used the wraps for the first time in a fight after the first cintron fight, i forget which one, his corner asked him how is the punch (or something like that, i remembered the facts at the time)

yet he did a better job on cintron the first time around

also perhaps the mosley fight just became a mega night for margarito, a must win fight, win it and you are a superstar, so perhaps that was the only time they tried

[Master]

Marg is still a competitive fighter he has only lost to the best. He does not have to admit he padded his gloves it can be seen in his performances. Also if he did not realise his trainer was padding his gloves then how can he be certain they were not padded in the first fight with Cotto. There is no need for a third fight at all.

[arcanum26]

Marg is still a competitive fighter he has only lost to the best. He does not have to admit he padded his gloves it can be seen in his performances. Also if he did not realise his trainer was padding his gloves then how can he be certain they were not padded in the first fight with Cotto. There is no need for a third fight at all.

Very very good point here. It goes both ways for Margo when he used this excuse. Doesn't hold up under scrutiny IMO. He can't definitively say he never cheated when we look at this main excuse of his.

On topic, don't think the eye issue would have made any difference since I don't see Cotto being in the same state that he was in their first fight during the later rounds. He had Margo's number with or without the eye issue.