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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Prime Bowe stops both brothers same night.
    Both brothers would be the biggest power punchers and best pure boxers (Holyfield aside) that Bowe would have ever set foot in a professional ring with.

    Bowe was talented, but he never stuck to his game plan when he was under pressure, and he routinely gave up height and reach advantages. Sure he could fight on the inside, but that's more difficult when your opponent ties you up.

    I'm certain both brothers not only beat a Prime Bowe, but stop him.

    I fear we will see Bowe vs Toney soon

    I have to respect the brothers they are dominant champions, But Bowe beat everybody he ever fought so to look at the areas where he was weak and act as though the brothers do not have a lot of weaknesses is silly.

    Prime Vitali was stopped in six by an ageing Lewis so lets not overate the brothers I'm not using triangle theories I just think you are overlooking things the Bow. that beat Holyfield not only beats both brothers he destroys them,

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    Bowe has been wobbled in some of his comeback fights against mediocre fighters, this is an accident waiting to happen and Bowe has definitely got some brain damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Prime Bowe stops both brothers same night.
    Both brothers would be the biggest power punchers and best pure boxers (Holyfield aside) that Bowe would have ever set foot in a professional ring with.

    Bowe was talented, but he never stuck to his game plan when he was under pressure, and he routinely gave up height and reach advantages. Sure he could fight on the inside, but that's more difficult when your opponent ties you up.

    I'm certain both brothers not only beat a Prime Bowe, but stop him.

    I fear we will see Bowe vs Toney soon
    At least you admit Wlad wouldn't have been able to beat him without excessively cheating I think Prime Bowe vs Vitali could have gone either way, but as you clearly accept on some level Wlad wouldn't have a chance of living with him on the inside and Bowe did have a chin, that one would only end badly for Wlad imo.

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    Riddick Bowe did have some trouble with fighters, who fought him on outside though. Tyrell Biggs was giving him fits and rocked him. An aging Tony Tubbs was unlucky not to get the nod over Riddick Bowe, Evander Holyfield outboxed him in the rematch.

    And Andrew Golota tortured Riddick Bowe on the outside twice, yes Riddick Bowe was past his best then. But i think Andrew Golota troubles him at anytime in his career. And Andrew Golota had the same stand up jab right hand style that the Klitschko brothers have.

    But then again Wladimir Klitschko has been troubled, by lesser fighters and Ko'ed aswell by lesser fighters. And Vitali Klitschko is untested against many top quality Heavyweights, the only real good Heavyweight's he's fought was Lennox Lewis. Although you could argue Sanders, Byrd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    At least you admit Wlad wouldn't have been able to beat him without excessively cheating I think Prime Bowe vs Vitali could have gone either way, but as you clearly accept on some level Wlad wouldn't have a chance of living with him on the inside and Bowe did have a chin, that one would only end badly for Wlad imo.
    What's the matter with tying up? Tyson did it, Ali did it, Lewis did it. ALL GREAT CHAMPIONS BEND OR BREAK THE RULES: Joe Louis is the ONLY great fighter I can think of that didn't have something he did that is considered cheating. Rocky Marciano used his forearms, he hit people when they were already down, Ali backhanded his jab and hung on the necks of his opponents, Lennox Lewis held and hit, Mike Tyson did in number of "dirty tricks"....why hate on Wlad, why single him out?

    Riddick Bowe never would have lived with either of the Klitschko's in a match....in his prime or right now. It's not like Riddick: is difficult to hit, had all that much power to begin with, or had a great chin. The reason the fights with Holyfield were good was because Evander didn't have much power, he liked to fight on the inside (Bowe obliged him), and Evander's workrate pushed Bowe. Do you not think Wlad could school Bowe the way Golota did except without the low blows? Perhaps you don't realize how Bowe got dominated by Andrew Golota TWICE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Prime Bowe stops both brothers same night.
    Both brothers would be the biggest power punchers and best pure boxers (Holyfield aside) that Bowe would have ever set foot in a professional ring with.

    Bowe was talented, but he never stuck to his game plan when he was under pressure, and he routinely gave up height and reach advantages. Sure he could fight on the inside, but that's more difficult when your opponent ties you up.

    I'm certain both brothers not only beat a Prime Bowe, but stop him.

    I fear we will see Bowe vs Toney soon

    I have to respect the brothers they are dominant champions, But Bowe beat everybody he ever fought so to look at the areas where he was weak and act as though the brothers do not have a lot of weaknesses is silly.

    Prime Vitali was stopped in six by an ageing Lewis so lets not overate the brothers I'm not using triangle theories I just think you are overlooking things the Bow. that beat Holyfield not only beats both brothers he destroys them,
    Officially he didn't beat everyone he ever fought. Bowe hit and knocked out Buster Mathis Jr. while he was on his knees, so they called it a No Contest.

    I talked to one of his agents yesterday and he wants him to do something in Pro Wrestling, like Louis, Galento and Carnera did, or just have him act as a body guard.

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    That wouldn't be a terrible idea for the guy. He was a fun fighter to watch and all, he brought drama to the ring, and was in some very controversial fights: Tillery, The Holyfield Trilogy including the Fan-Man fight, and the 2 fights vs Andrew "The Foul Pole" Golota.

    It would have been interesting in he fought Tommy Morrison at one time as I assume it would have been a back and forth slugfest. Mike Tyson would have been a great match up for him, Donovan Ruddock, and of course Lennox Lewis....it's a shame he missed out on all of those, he had a great career, but almost no meaningful fights and there was plenty for him to choose from!

    Perhaps Bowe could get into training or something.


    I don't want to see him fight the Klitschko's simply because its a horrible mismatch, hell everyone saw what happened to a fresher Shannon Briggs, dude got put in the hospital!

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    At least you admit Wlad wouldn't have been able to beat him without excessively cheating I think Prime Bowe vs Vitali could have gone either way, but as you clearly accept on some level Wlad wouldn't have a chance of living with him on the inside and Bowe did have a chin, that one would only end badly for Wlad imo.
    What's the matter with tying up? Tyson did it, Ali did it, Lewis did it. ALL GREAT CHAMPIONS BEND OR BREAK THE RULES: Joe Louis is the ONLY great fighter I can think of that didn't have something he did that is considered cheating. Rocky Marciano used his forearms, he hit people when they were already down, Ali backhanded his jab and hung on the necks of his opponents, Lennox Lewis held and hit, Mike Tyson did in number of "dirty tricks"....why hate on Wlad, why single him out?

    Riddick Bowe never would have lived with either of the Klitschko's in a match....in his prime or right now. It's not like Riddick: is difficult to hit, had all that much power to begin with, or had a great chin. The reason the fights with Holyfield were good was because Evander didn't have much power, he liked to fight on the inside (Bowe obliged him), and Evander's workrate pushed Bowe. Do you not think Wlad could school Bowe the way Golota did except without the low blows? Perhaps you don't realize how Bowe got dominated by Andrew Golota TWICE!
    THe glaring difference is all of those guys would tie up while still trying to inflict punishment on their opponents, and it wasn't the ONLY thing they could do on the inside, it was part of their offensive in large part. Wlad is THE heavyweight champion and all he can do on when someone gets in close is hug them for dear life, that's why I single him out. It serves no purpose other than to buy him time and space from the ref(which it shouldn't) because he can't fight on the inside worth shit. I think Bowe would have pummeled him in his prime, which was well before he met Golota, and I don't have Riddick Bowe posters in my bedroom either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    THe glaring difference is all of those guys would tie up while still trying to inflict punishment on their opponents, and it wasn't the ONLY thing they could do on the inside, it was part of their offensive in large part. Wlad is THE heavyweight champion and all he can do on when someone gets in close is hug them for dear life, that's why I single him out. It serves no purpose other than to buy him time and space from the ref(which it shouldn't) because he can't fight on the inside worth shit. I think Bowe would have pummeled him in his prime, which was well before he met Golota, and I don't have Riddick Bowe posters in my bedroom either.
    Mike Tyson would tie up on the inside a lot because #1 it gave him a chance to forearm smash his opponent in the throat or headbutt #2 He would tie up because the referee would then break them giving Tyson a fresh start to work his way in as his style was not made for going backward this was an important strategy, Wladimir's doing so is damn near identical to what Tyson did. Grab ahold, walk them to the ropes, ref breaks you, and bang it's like the start of a new round...strategy man, strategy. Did Tyson work on the inside? Sure, but he didn't walk straight in, if he got caught out of position or moved out of position he'd either circle, allow his opponent to circle out, or he'd tie them up. Wlad gets out of position on the inside so why shouldn't he tie up? It's a smart move and people only complain about it because he wins fights easily.


    As for Bowe, he could barely handle Biggs do you rate Tyrell Biggs better than the Klitschko's?

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    I complain about it because it's nasty to watch and he does it excessively, I have no bias for or against Wlad just don't really enjoy watching him fight. I feel he doesn't utilize his physical tools to nearly the extent that he could. Haven't even seen Bowe fight Biggs maybe I'll watch that. I rate Riddick Bowe higher than Lamon Brewster though, are you going to say he couldn't have beaten that Wlad, etc? Almost all fighters have bad nights and Bowe especially was terribly inconsistent and lazy in training. In the few times he did show up really motivated during his peak I feel he would've been way to much for Wlad is all.

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