Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
In the case of Toney or Tyson you can even argue that Roach was poor and let his fighters get away with poor conditioning.

Agreed, I always wondered what was up with Roach training Toney for the time he did, seemed like a silly match. James had forgotten more about the sport than almost any active trainer let alone Freddie Roach, you'd think he would've just needed someone to keep him in shape and motivated...