Is Andre Ward a "Great" fighter?

[Master]

Yes he has the potentila to be a great fighter like Roy Jones and James Toney.

[erics44]

you dont have to be entertaining to be great

which in some ways is a pitty

[Mars_ax]

you dont have to be entertaining to be great

which in some ways is a pitty

Probably not, but when you get right down to it, isn't that what "prize fighting" is all about = entertainment? Who the fuck wants to watch fights that don't entertain you?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

It's odd, I really don't find Ward un-entertaining.

Maybe the Green fight was a little teipd but I really enjoyed his fights with Kessler, Abraham, Bika, Miranda, Froch etc..

[Mars_ax]

It's odd, I really don't find Ward un-entertaining.

Maybe the Green fight was a little teipd but I really enjoyed his fights with Kessler, Abraham, Bika, Miranda, Froch etc..

Ward seems to be gaining a bit of popularity, but he's still a grade "B" movie as far as entertainment. He lost me as being any kind of fan at all in the beginning of his career with that SOG bullshit, and that gang infested sewer of Oakland, California. I have zero interest in watching his fights.

[shza]

It's odd, I really don't find Ward un-entertaining.

Maybe the Green fight was a little teipd but I really enjoyed his fights with Kessler, Abraham, Bika, Miranda, Froch etc..

Ward seems to be gaining a bit of popularity, but he's still a grade "B" movie as far as entertainment. He lost me as being any kind of fan at all in the beginning of his career with that SOG bullshit, and that gang infested sewer of Oakland, California. I have zero interest in watching his fights.

You're from East Texas and talking that kind of shit? I had to spend a week and a half in Beaumont once -- most depressing place I've ever been (and the smelliest).

Oakland is a geographically big city. It's also 10 minutes from San Francisco (what do you have - Houston? LOL). There are big regional parks full of redwood trees and extremely wealthy areas with top restaurants, shops, great architecture, and beautiful bay views. The violence and gang stuff is totally limited to a few areas and is waaay overplayed by the media. If you didn't purposely venture into those areas, you'd have no idea it existed in Oakland.

[Mars_ax]

It's odd, I really don't find Ward un-entertaining.

Maybe the Green fight was a little teipd but I really enjoyed his fights with Kessler, Abraham, Bika, Miranda, Froch etc..

Ward seems to be gaining a bit of popularity, but he's still a grade "B" movie as far as entertainment. He lost me as being any kind of fan at all in the beginning of his career with that SOG bullshit, and that gang infested sewer of Oakland, California. I have zero interest in watching his fights.

You're from East Texas and talking that kind of shit? I had to spend a week and a half in Beaumont once -- most depressing place I've ever been (and the smelliest).

Oakland is a geographically big city. It's also 10 minutes from San Francisco (what do you have - Houston? LOL). There are big regional parks full of redwood trees and extremely wealthy areas with top restaurants, shops, great architecture, and beautiful bay views. The violence and gang stuff is totally limited to a few areas and is waaay overplayed by the media. If you didn't purposely venture into those areas, you'd have no idea it existed in Oakland.

The Beaumont area is depressing, (Port Arthur is a fucking armpit) we don't really consider it a part of "East Texas", which by the way, can also be depressing.
I have no doubt that, that region of California puts East Texas to shame in most ways, no argument there. F.W.I.W., given a choice, I probably wouldn't live in ET, but my business and family is here.

It just seems that much of what you see and hear about Oakland is the violence, drug and gang stuff, the media has reported things that convinced me that I wouldn't want to live there.

[Mars_ax]

Yes he has the potentila to be a great fighter like Roy Jones and James Toney.

I reckon, one thing Ward won't have is the popularity and fanbase, and unlike Jones, can you imagine Ward being able to sell a PPV?

If Showtime markets a Bute vs. Ward PPV, they'd better do the fight in Quebec, because it won't draw flies here in the States.