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    Default Re: Boxer of the year

    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Very good year for Arce as well. Moved up, won a title; moved back down, won again. Either he or Viloria is at least the Comeback Fighter of the Year.

    Overall fighter of the year has to be Ward though. Agreed AA was a whatever fight, but winning the tourney while hardly dropping any rounds is pretty huge. And while I thought Froch was pretty overrated going into that fight, he's still probably the best fighter to have been beaten clearly this year. Well, scratch that -- Segura probably is.

    If Hopkins had beaten Dawson, I would definitely give it to him (but I think Dawson would have won if the fight had been completed anyway).
    And Viloria stopped Segura. Frankly, the more I think about it, the more it has to be Viloria if we are going on pure "in the ring" accomplishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Very good year for Arce as well. Moved up, won a title; moved back down, won again. Either he or Viloria is at least the Comeback Fighter of the Year.

    Overall fighter of the year has to be Ward though. Agreed AA was a whatever fight, but winning the tourney while hardly dropping any rounds is pretty huge. And while I thought Froch was pretty overrated going into that fight, he's still probably the best fighter to have been beaten clearly this year. Well, scratch that -- Segura probably is.

    If Hopkins had beaten Dawson, I would definitely give it to him (but I think Dawson would have won if the fight had been completed anyway).
    And Viloria stopped Segura. Frankly, the more I think about it, the more it has to be Viloria if we are going on pure "in the ring" accomplishments.
    That may be right, but these things are subjective and typically include a "visibility" factor that obviously weighs more heavily in favor of Ward than Viloria. For better or worse (entirely for the worse, IMO), Viloria-Segura was not a "big fight" in the sport; the only way most could even watch it was through an internet stream. By contrast, the Super 6 championship was a highly-anticipated major event.

    Also, FWIW, Segura had moved up to a new weight division for the fight (though only 3 lbs., granted).

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    Default Re: Boxer of the year

    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Very good year for Arce as well. Moved up, won a title; moved back down, won again. Either he or Viloria is at least the Comeback Fighter of the Year.

    Overall fighter of the year has to be Ward though. Agreed AA was a whatever fight, but winning the tourney while hardly dropping any rounds is pretty huge. And while I thought Froch was pretty overrated going into that fight, he's still probably the best fighter to have been beaten clearly this year. Well, scratch that -- Segura probably is.

    If Hopkins had beaten Dawson, I would definitely give it to him (but I think Dawson would have won if the fight had been completed anyway).
    And Viloria stopped Segura. Frankly, the more I think about it, the more it has to be Viloria if we are going on pure "in the ring" accomplishments.
    That may be right, but these things are subjective and typically include a "visibility" factor that obviously weighs more heavily in favor of Ward than Viloria. For better or worse (entirely for the worse, IMO), Viloria-Segura was not a "big fight" in the sport; the only way most could even watch it was through an internet stream. By contrast, the Super 6 championship was a highly-anticipated major event.

    Also, FWIW, Segura had moved up to a new weight division for the fight (though only 3 lbs., granted).
    Little guys just get no respect. He had moved up in weight three pounds but he was still the favorite big time. Segura had nine straight stoppage wins too going into the fight. So, stopping a guy coming off of nine straight stoppage wins and who was ranked p4p in my opinion clintches it. Plus, the Pinga Miranda win is better than the Abraham win no doubt about it. You're right that it's subjective. It is what it is.

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