Orlando Salido

[Violent Demise]

Clearly a case of fighting down to his competitions level. Him getting knocked around a bit was good for him. It's a reminder that he needs to be up for a fighters. I still favor him in the Lopez rematch. Mainly cuz Lopez showed in his last fight against Oliver that he hasn't changed a damn thing.

[:::PSL:::]

Wow. i wanna see him fight Bernabe Concepcon next.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Wow. i wanna see him fight Bernabe Concepcon next.

not gonna happen, what has Concepcion done to earn another title shot?, he's 2-3 in his last 5 fights

[TitoFan]

Clearly a case of fighting down to his competitions level. Him getting knocked around a bit was good for him. It's a reminder that he needs to be up for a fighters. I still favor him in the Lopez rematch. Mainly cuz Lopez showed in his last fight against Oliver that he hasn't changed a damn thing.

Unfortunately you're right. Talking to a friend of mine at work, we were pretty much saying the same thing. The Oliver fight was not impressive AT ALL. He got the job done, but took way too many punches. Do that against Salido.... and it's deja vu all over again. Shame.... 'cause Lopez has the tools. He can box, he can bang. He needs a trainer to get in his head and get him to make the necessary adjustments.

[Onix]

Clearly a case of fighting down to his competitions level. Him getting knocked around a bit was good for him. It's a reminder that he needs to be up for a fighters. I still favor him in the Lopez rematch. Mainly cuz Lopez showed in his last fight against Oliver that he hasn't changed a damn thing.

Unfortunately you're right. Talking to a friend of mine at work, we were pretty much saying the same thing. The Oliver fight was not impressive AT ALL. He got the job done, but took way too many punches. Do that against Salido.... and it's deja vu all over again. Shame.... 'cause Lopez has the tools. He can box, he can bang. He needs a trainer to get in his head and get him to make the necessary adjustments.

What did you think of Cotto's new trainer for Juanma?

[TitoFan]

Clearly a case of fighting down to his competitions level. Him getting knocked around a bit was good for him. It's a reminder that he needs to be up for a fighters. I still favor him in the Lopez rematch. Mainly cuz Lopez showed in his last fight against Oliver that he hasn't changed a damn thing.

Unfortunately you're right. Talking to a friend of mine at work, we were pretty much saying the same thing. The Oliver fight was not impressive AT ALL. He got the job done, but took way too many punches. Do that against Salido.... and it's deja vu all over again. Shame.... 'cause Lopez has the tools. He can box, he can bang. He needs a trainer to get in his head and get him to make the necessary adjustments.

What did you think of Cotto's new trainer for Juanma?

I think he'd do wonders for Juanma. He brought the boxing back to Cotto's arsenal.... he should be able to do the same for Juanma. Particularly get him rid of his love for his own power. Like it's been said before.... that stretch of 1-round KO's for Juanma probably did him more harm than good. And like it's also been said.... Juanma fights differently here in Puerto Rico. He wants to please the crowd so much, with KO's, that he forgets his defense.

Yeah.... Cotto's new trainer would do wonders for Juanma.
Wish they'd hook up.

[Violent Demise]

Clearly a case of fighting down to his competitions level. Him getting knocked around a bit was good for him. It's a reminder that he needs to be up for a fighters. I still favor him in the Lopez rematch. Mainly cuz Lopez showed in his last fight against Oliver that he hasn't changed a damn thing.

Unfortunately you're right. Talking to a friend of mine at work, we were pretty much saying the same thing. The Oliver fight was not impressive AT ALL. He got the job done, but took way too many punches. Do that against Salido.... and it's deja vu all over again. Shame.... 'cause Lopez has the tools. He can box, he can bang. He needs a trainer to get in his head and get him to make the necessary adjustments.

I don't think a trainer would help. Lopez is a fighter who needs absolutely everything to go right. He can start off boxing and control a fight. But as soon as something goes wrong he panics. He starts complaining to the ref and he reverts back to the style he thinks will make things better. He starts looking for the knock out. He'll load up and throw nothing but power punches. Leaving himself wide open in the process. He was able to get away with that style when he was on the come up. Cuz the opposition was weak. Against better opposition it doesn't work. 3 times it's really failed him. He's lucky he doesn't have more than 1 loss. Mtagwa ran out of rounds. If there was one more I don't see how Lopez would of survived. He was out on his feet against Marquez but Weeks bad timing gave him about 40 seconds to recover. And against Salido he got his L. I think it's a mental thing that I don't see a trainer being able to fix

[No Contest]

I think JML will win the rematch if he has a better training camp. Wasn't he just going through a divorce and battling to male weight? Salido ... you never know with him
He can struggle with average fighters then turn around and look very solid.

[Hulk]

I like Salido, he fought well against Gamboa and pulled off a sensational upset against Lopez IN PUERTO RICO !

I'm very surprised to hear he was dropped twice against an unknown journeyman, but like VD said I think its a matter of him not training hard and fighting down to his level of competition.

Hope so anyway or he's in trouble

[TitoFan]

Clearly a case of fighting down to his competitions level. Him getting knocked around a bit was good for him. It's a reminder that he needs to be up for a fighters. I still favor him in the Lopez rematch. Mainly cuz Lopez showed in his last fight against Oliver that he hasn't changed a damn thing.

Unfortunately you're right. Talking to a friend of mine at work, we were pretty much saying the same thing. The Oliver fight was not impressive AT ALL. He got the job done, but took way too many punches. Do that against Salido.... and it's deja vu all over again. Shame.... 'cause Lopez has the tools. He can box, he can bang. He needs a trainer to get in his head and get him to make the necessary adjustments.

I don't think a trainer would help. Lopez is a fighter who needs absolutely everything to go right. He can start off boxing and control a fight. But as soon as something goes wrong he panics. He starts complaining to the ref and he reverts back to the style he thinks will make things better. He starts looking for the knock out. He'll load up and throw nothing but power punches. Leaving himself wide open in the process. He was able to get away with that style when he was on the come up. Cuz the opposition was weak. Against better opposition it doesn't work. 3 times it's really failed him. He's lucky he doesn't have more than 1 loss. Mtagwa ran out of rounds. If there was one more I don't see how Lopez would of survived. He was out on his feet against Marquez but Weeks bad timing gave him about 40 seconds to recover. And against Salido he got his L. I think it's a mental thing that I don't see a trainer being able to fix

All the faults you're talking about can be fixed by a good trainer. Again, he's got the physical tools. He's just wandered away from them. If you've watched any of his earlier fights, you'll see what I mean. He was boxing better, and had quicker hands. A good trainer can get him back to that. About the weak opposition? I don't buy that. Sounds like "Monday morning quarterbacking" to me. So now you're dismissing Ponce de Leon as "weak opposition"? Naw.... that's too easy. Against Mtgwa he learned a valuable lesson, and is now probably the better fighter for it. Marquez had him "out on his feet"? Doubt it. I'll have to watch the fight again, but I think you're guilty of slightly exagerating reality. And finally..... "it's a mental thing that I don't see a trainer being able to fix". Hmm... interesting. First time I've ever heard THAT assessment. A "mental thing" is what Kermit Cintron has. He lacks the mentality of a warrior to go out there and give 100% all the time. A wasted talent. But Juanma? I think he's got some bad habits to be sure..... something a good trainer can definitely fix.