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    Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".

    I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.

    #1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.

    #2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.

    #3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.

    #4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.

    #5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.

    Anyone think any of those are likely?

    4.Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
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    ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao

    Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.


    Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao

    Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.


    Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
    Burns has never made any claims to greatness and has fought everyone put in front of him.
    I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
    Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
    Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
    Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao

    Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.


    Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
    Burns has never made any claims to greatness and has fought everyone put in front of him.
    I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
    Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
    Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
    Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
    He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao

    Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.


    Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
    Burns has never made any claims to greatness and has fought everyone put in front of him.
    I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
    Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
    Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
    Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
    He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
    How was Burns a coward when he was strugglying to make weight and then he moved up to fight Katsidis who is a known powerpuncher and established at the weight. Not a lot of people gave Burns a chance, myself included because the fight was a risk which has paid off for Burns.

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    I am backing Cleverly to stay undefeated, but I would like to see him in with a top rated fighter by the summer, he needs to be in deep water to show how good he really is. He also needs to work on his defence, however hes a great prospect and I have faith hes going to keep on improving.

    Amir Khan needs to get a rematch asap with Peterson and put on a strong performance. I believe he is capable of beating Peterson if he doesnt get stupid, he needs to box clever and stop Peterson having so much success on the inside. Khans better than that, he needs to beat him and move on. I would love a Kell Brook showdown for a debut at 147, but that is unlikely. He does need a top ranked 147 to see how he adjusts to moving up, Khan will give any fighter problems with his speed but he needs to be more focused in what he is doing. He is a great talent though, I believe he will bounce back from the loss, because his confidence doesnt look shattered from the peterson loss because he does truely believe he was robbed, he needs to prove that it was a robbery and get those belts back.

    Froch is getting older and I believe he needs to just keep fighting the best at 168 and go straight for Bute. It will no doubt be a hard fight for Froch but he is capable of getting Bute into a war and unlike Ward I think Froch will be able to land more leather on him. Bute will give Froch problems because he is good, but hes not been in with a fighter as good as Froch and I think this will test him. Both of at the top of the game and the best need to fight the best, I hope Froch wins this and tries to rematch Kessler too. Kessler might have another belt by then and if Froch can beat Bute than you never know a rematch one day with Ward down the line with all the belts? It will take a lot of effort from Froch, but I would love it if he could do this. Bute and Kessler needs to be Frochs top priority in terms of his next fights.

    I would love to see Burns fight Mitchell in the summer. I think that would be a cracking UK domestic showdown that could go either way. For both fighters it would push them to move onto America and fight the best in the weight class. Although both would be underdogs against any of the top ranked fighters I believe now is their time to push for these fights and show what they have got. I like both of them and wish them both luck, I really do hope they meet each other though.

    Fury has a lot of work to do on his defence, but I do believe that he can do something at the weight. Hes young and still inexperienced and for a heavyweight he still has a lot of time to work on his weaknesses. He has shown hes got heart though from coming off the matt to win fights before and he has power as shown in his fights. He can also go 12 hard rounds as proved against Chisora and that was a great win for him. I think he needs to move to European level fighters and see where he stands. Hes a talent whos going the right way IMO. I think Chisora is proving that hes sorted himself and I wouldnt mind seeing them rematch late 2012. Chisora will lose against vitali but hopefully he will give a good account of himself and win his next fight to set up a rematch with Fury late 2012, we will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao

    Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.


    Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
    Burns has never made any claims to greatness and has fought everyone put in front of him.
    I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
    Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
    Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
    Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
    He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
    How was Burns a coward when he was strugglying to make weight and then he moved up to fight Katsidis who is a known powerpuncher and established at the weight. Not a lot of people gave Burns a chance, myself included because the fight was a risk which has paid off for Burns.
    Burns was suppose to face Broner before he pulled out of there fight. But requested and was granted the opportunity to make an optional defense. Because everybody knows he just needed to fight Nicky Cook. After the Cook charade he's forced to face his mandatory. Which is Broner. Everything is set. The date and venue are set. HBO is ready. Broner is ready. Than just weeks from the fight Burns pulls out to take a fight with Katsidis. A fighter who not only had lost 2 of his last 3. But was dominated in those 2 losses. How is that not a coward move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao

    Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.


    Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
    Burns has never made any claims to greatness and has fought everyone put in front of him.
    I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
    Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
    Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
    Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
    He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
    How was Burns a coward when he was strugglying to make weight and then he moved up to fight Katsidis who is a known powerpuncher and established at the weight. Not a lot of people gave Burns a chance, myself included because the fight was a risk which has paid off for Burns.
    Burns was suppose to face Broner before he pulled out of there fight. But requested and was granted the opportunity to make an optional defense. Because everybody knows he just needed to fight Nicky Cook. After the Cook charade he's forced to face his mandatory. Which is Broner. Everything is set. The date and venue are set. HBO is ready. Broner is ready. Than just weeks from the fight Burns pulls out to take a fight with Katsidis. A fighter who not only had lost 2 of his last 3. But was dominated in those 2 losses. How is that not a coward move?
    Your not Ricky Burns though and he said he couldn't peform as well at 130 and yeah taking on Broner would have been a tougher fight and if Burns would have lost which was likely he would not be in the position he is now. I don't see it as cowardly I saw that move as smart...he could do better at 135 because he struggled making weight and as I said before Katsidis was expected to roll over Burns because Katsidis was suppose to be better than Burns. Katsidis lost to Marquez who just beat Manny IMO and Guerrero who's the man to beat at 135, no shame in that. Katsidis has shown us Brits what he is capable in the past e.g. Mitchell and Earl and any British fan knows he is a powerful fighter for Burns and a true step up in class. That win is leading on for Burns to become a 2 weight world Champion ( I know his record isn't strong) however he's still nearly a two weight champion.

    So in my eyes that wasn't a cowardly move it was a tactical risk that is going to pay off because Burns will get more pay days now, if he fought Broner maybe he would not get the opportunity he's got now. Now that's a smart move IMO. Put yourself in Burns' shoes if you were him and had his ability you would have done the same...why? Because it was the most sensible move as he has proven.

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    Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".

    I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.

    #1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.

    #2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.

    #3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.

    #4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.

    #5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.

    Anyone think any of those are likely?

    4.Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
    No he is not.
    This x10
    What x10 ?
    Ricky Burns is a great fighter or No he is not ?
    Ricky Burns would twat Chuck Norris.
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