Nonito "The Flash" Donaire

[Rantcatrat]

As far as legacy goes, gaining titles in multiple weight classes is a good thing and there is no reason to jump to 126 if he can still make 122 safely.

To some people still, I suppose. With the absurd proliferation of BS titles, I don't count it for anything unless we're talking about the true lineal championship or at the very least unifying all of the belts, neither of which Nonito bothered to go for at 115 or 118 anyway. For me, fighting the best competition is more important for legacy than holding different paper titles in three (ridiculous!) classes that span 7 pounds.

The guys you mention at 122 are "good" but they're obviously not as good as the top guys at 126 and there's no fight around these weight classes anywhere near as big/important as Donaire/Gamboa would be. Instead, what will happen is that Gamboa will have outgrown 126 by the time Donaire gets there and we'll never get the fight. Hardly worth it just to see fights against Arce's leftover and, if we're lucky, against some other B+ fighters.

I'm not sure I 100% agree but I hear your point outside of Nishioka and Rigandeaux (I expect to beat Ramos). They're both legitimate competition. The paper belt concept I completely agree with. Better competition is more important than belts. However, he doesn't want to be seen as skipping good competition on his way up in weight.

[shza]

As far as legacy goes, gaining titles in multiple weight classes is a good thing and there is no reason to jump to 126 if he can still make 122 safely.

To some people still, I suppose. With the absurd proliferation of BS titles, I don't count it for anything unless we're talking about the true lineal championship or at the very least unifying all of the belts, neither of which Nonito bothered to go for at 115 or 118 anyway. For me, fighting the best competition is more important for legacy than holding different paper titles in three (ridiculous!) classes that span 7 pounds.

The guys you mention at 122 are "good" but they're obviously not as good as the top guys at 126 and there's no fight around these weight classes anywhere near as big/important as Donaire/Gamboa would be. Instead, what will happen is that Gamboa will have outgrown 126 by the time Donaire gets there and we'll never get the fight. Hardly worth it just to see fights against Arce's leftover and, if we're lucky, against some other B+ fighters.

I'm not sure I 100% agree but I hear your point outside of Nishioka and Rigandeaux (I expect to beat Ramos). They're both legitimate competition. The paper belt concept I completely agree with. Better competition is more important than belts. However, he doesn't want to be seen as skipping good competition on his way up in weight.

I think that ship has sailed. He didn't fight Mares or Moreno at 118. Or Agbeko. And I really don't think anyone would think of it as ducking Nishioka or Rigandeaux if Nonito fought JuanMa or Gamboa instead.

[Rantcatrat]

As far as legacy goes, gaining titles in multiple weight classes is a good thing and there is no reason to jump to 126 if he can still make 122 safely.

To some people still, I suppose. With the absurd proliferation of BS titles, I don't count it for anything unless we're talking about the true lineal championship or at the very least unifying all of the belts, neither of which Nonito bothered to go for at 115 or 118 anyway. For me, fighting the best competition is more important for legacy than holding different paper titles in three (ridiculous!) classes that span 7 pounds.

The guys you mention at 122 are "good" but they're obviously not as good as the top guys at 126 and there's no fight around these weight classes anywhere near as big/important as Donaire/Gamboa would be. Instead, what will happen is that Gamboa will have outgrown 126 by the time Donaire gets there and we'll never get the fight. Hardly worth it just to see fights against Arce's leftover and, if we're lucky, against some other B+ fighters.

I'm not sure I 100% agree but I hear your point outside of Nishioka and Rigandeaux (I expect to beat Ramos). They're both legitimate competition. The paper belt concept I completely agree with. Better competition is more important than belts. However, he doesn't want to be seen as skipping good competition on his way up in weight.

I think that ship has sailed. He didn't fight Mares or Moreno at 118. Or Agbeko. And I really don't think anyone would think of it as ducking Nishioka or Rigandeaux if Nonito fought JuanMa or Gamboa instead.

Clearly, but the trajectory is better. Beat the bst at 122, as you suggested maybe only the best are worth fighting there, and then face the best at 126. Frankly, if he beat Rigandeaux and then Gamboa, we'd be watching something special, like once every twenty years special.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Greatest Filipino fighter of all time must face Toshiaki Nishioka in June.. That's the plan..

[shza]

As far as legacy goes, gaining titles in multiple weight classes is a good thing and there is no reason to jump to 126 if he can still make 122 safely.

To some people still, I suppose. With the absurd proliferation of BS titles, I don't count it for anything unless we're talking about the true lineal championship or at the very least unifying all of the belts, neither of which Nonito bothered to go for at 115 or 118 anyway. For me, fighting the best competition is more important for legacy than holding different paper titles in three (ridiculous!) classes that span 7 pounds.

The guys you mention at 122 are "good" but they're obviously not as good as the top guys at 126 and there's no fight around these weight classes anywhere near as big/important as Donaire/Gamboa would be. Instead, what will happen is that Gamboa will have outgrown 126 by the time Donaire gets there and we'll never get the fight. Hardly worth it just to see fights against Arce's leftover and, if we're lucky, against some other B+ fighters.

I'm not sure I 100% agree but I hear your point outside of Nishioka and Rigandeaux (I expect to beat Ramos). They're both legitimate competition. The paper belt concept I completely agree with. Better competition is more important than belts. However, he doesn't want to be seen as skipping good competition on his way up in weight.

I think that ship has sailed. He didn't fight Mares or Moreno at 118. Or Agbeko. And I really don't think anyone would think of it as ducking Nishioka or Rigandeaux if Nonito fought JuanMa or Gamboa instead.

Clearly, but the trajectory is better. Beat the bst at 122, as you suggested maybe only the best are worth fighting there, and then face the best at 126. Frankly, if he beat Rigandeaux and then Gamboa, we'd be watching something special, like once every twenty years special.

I think you rate Rigandeaux much more highly than I do then. I should watch more of his fights, maybe. But as it stands, I'd be just as happy if he went straight to Gamboa. For the record, I'd pick Donaire in both of those fights. I also don't think the Gamboa fight will ever happen, unfortunately.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I'm picking Donaire to pull of the win at this point in time, seeing how I think it's coming too soon for Vazquez Jr, but I wouldn't be shocked to see a Williams/Quintana I type situation, Donaire hasn't been hit by a guy his own size so lets see how he handles that

[Dia bando]

As fighter's go Donaire, is something special one of the best
I have seen in sometime.? what has he got he is a complete
fighter, and this guy will take some beating.?
And he will become a modern great.