Froch vs Bute on April 14 in Canada, then a rematch on August 4 in Nottingham

[shza]

That's right ward would rather fight nobodies whereas froch will keep headlining fight of the year matches and go down with sugar ray Leonard.

I don't know how I possibly missed it before, but now that you say it, it seems so obvious: Carl Froch is just like Sugar Ray Leonard.

I'm glad the Froch fans can be so objective. This has been a really constructive thread.

[erics44]

That's right ward would rather fight nobodies whereas froch will keep headlining fight of the year matches and go down with sugar ray Leonard.

I don't know how I possibly missed it before, but now that you say it, it seems so obvious: Carl Froch is just like Sugar Ray Leonard.

I'm glad the Froch fans can be so objective. This has been a really constructive thread.

Thing is man, we just had a discussion an i came out as the objective one and you as more biast so this statement doesnt really ring true

[shza]

That's right ward would rather fight nobodies whereas froch will keep headlining fight of the year matches and go down with sugar ray Leonard.

I don't know how I possibly missed it before, but now that you say it, it seems so obvious: Carl Froch is just like Sugar Ray Leonard.

I'm glad the Froch fans can be so objective. This has been a really constructive thread.

Thing is man, we just had a discussion an i came out as the objective one and you as more biast so this statement doesnt really ring true

In your subjective opinion, you can off as objective, perhaps. "Froch would have won the Kessler fight if it was anywhere other than Denmark." "Ward definitely wouldn't have won the tournament if he had fought the same schedule as Froch." Etc. All pure speculation and implausible to boot.

[erics44]

"Froch would have won the Kessler fight if it was anywhere other than Denmark." - was a reply to your comments about froch losing to dirrell, to highlight how that is your opinion, i then went on to say that the only thing that matters in either fight is the judges

"Ward definitely wouldn't have won the tournament if he had fought the same schedule as Froch." - i never said definately, i said i think we might have a different champ, this conversation continued to you asking me who would have beaten ward, a question i answered, and i then suggested that the odds would be against ward staying unbeaten with a string of fights like those froch had which you failed to reply to

Read your posts back, the smw division is rubbish, kessler and froch are b level fighters, cummon man, i have proved to be objective and you to be biast in this thread

Ward is a good fighter, he has beaten kessler and froch all be it both in home fixtures still very good results. He has also had some good wins over the second tier of the division, he isnt yet in the supreme class as the hype seems to be putting him

[shza]

"Froch would have won the Kessler fight if it was anywhere other than Denmark." - was a reply to your comments about froch losing to dirrell, to highlight how that is your opinion, i then went on to say that the only thing that matters in either fight is the judges

"Ward definitely wouldn't have won the tournament if he had fought the same schedule as Froch." - i never said definately, i said i think we might have a different champ, this conversation continued to you asking me who would have beaten ward, a question i answered, and i then suggested that the odds would be against ward staying unbeaten with a string of fights like those froch had which you failed to reply to

Read your posts back, the smw division is rubbish, kessler and froch are b level fighters, cummon man, i have proved to be objective and you to be biast in this thread

Ward is a good fighter, he has beaten kessler and froch all be it both in home fixtures still very good results. He has also had some good wins over the second tier of the division, he isnt yet in the supreme class as the hype seems to be putting him

You have stated opinions, as have I. Read your own posts back, including the one I'm responding to right now -- it's all opinion. By definition, subjective. And the word is "biased," not "biast." (Objectively true - not just my opinion.) Second time you've done that.

Just because I disagree with your subjective opinions does not transform them into objective facts or render mine biased. Your position is simply that your own opinions are always necessarily deeply and objectively true. Ironically, this is itself an example of bias. (Also the reason why arguing with you is pointless, so this will be my last post on this. I am well aware that you will jump on with more sophistry to have the last word.)

[erics44]

It is an opinion but it is my opinion that you are biast, and there is some clear text to back up my opinion

Ward is a+, froch and kes are b level, none of froch's opponents would have beaten ward, ward would still be champ, etc etc

And then you go on to say that the froch fans are biast and cant be objective, understand my beef?

[Rantcatrat]

Just so we're clear about Ward and Hopkins, it isn't that they are close in any way moreso than the average boxers, like say Ward is with Dirrell maybe, it's that he doesn't see the point in fighting Hopkins.

FIGHTHYPE \\ ANDRE WARD: "I DON'T FEEL LIKE I SHOULD BE BACKED IN A CORNER...THERE SHOULD BE MULTIPLE OPTIONS"