Hearn says showtime rejects Froch - Bute...

[Violent Demise]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

[Fenster]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

[Violent Demise]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

[Tam Seddon]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

well the contracted agreement said if it was a KO within 6 rounds or a one sided decision either way then there wouldn't be a rematch so to answer your question...no there wouldn't be a rematch.

[Violent Demise]

The moronic scores for Ward-Froch suggest it was a close fight when in reality it wasn't. There shouldn't be a rematch but I can easily see Froch pushing for one using the scores to support his case.

[Tam Seddon]

The moronic scores for Ward-Froch suggest it was a close fight when in reality it wasn't. There shouldn't be a rematch but I can easily see Froch pushing for one using the scores to support his case.

Froch doesn't deserve a rematch against Ward at this momment in time and he should be trying to keep well away from one. I was talking about Froch - Bute saying if the fight wasnt at all close there wouldn't be a rematch that was part of the agreement.

[Violent Demise]

The moronic scores for Ward-Froch suggest it was a close fight when in reality it wasn't. There shouldn't be a rematch but I can easily see Froch pushing for one using the scores to support his case.

Froch doesn't deserve a rematch against Ward at this momment in time and he should be trying to keep well away from one. I was talking about Froch - Bute saying if the fight wasnt at all close there wouldn't be a rematch that was part of the agreement.

I'm talking about the same thing. Using Ward-Froch as an example. Which was a lopsided fight deemed close by moronic scorecards. Do they rematch than?

[Fenster]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

No I'm saying I don't even regard Bute as champion. His silly IBF belt means NOTHING when it comes to comparing him with the worlds best supermiddles.

It's real simple to understand -

Fighter A spends the last two years challenging all the best fighters in the world. Even willing to constantly give-up home-advantage. In the process he loses his own title. He's fighting the very best, so obviously has more chance of losing.

Fighter B wins an alphabet title. Spends four years at home defending it against "bums/leftovers."

Now how the fuck can any serious fan regard fighter B as the "champ."

Bute should be BEHIND Froch in the rankings. He shouldn't have any right to dictate terms to a fighter with a far superior resume.

To repeat - If it's lopsided or a KO the rematch is scrapped. They're asking for a rematch if it's CLOSE. They (Team FRoch) admitted the scorecards were wrong in the Ward fight. That's why no-one cares for a rematch.

However, what if it's like Bute-Andrade 1? What if Froch knocks him out but they still award Bute the victory? Does Froch, the fighter with the far superior record, the former two time alpahbet holder, the super-six finalist, NOT deserve a rematch? And why the fuck should he go back to Canada for it.

Come on now, lets keep it real (IBF means superiority?.. deary, deary me )

[Rantcatrat]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

No I'm saying I don't even regard Bute as champion. His silly IBF belt means NOTHING when it comes to comparing him with the worlds best supermiddles.

It's real simple to understand -

Fighter A spends the last two years challenging all the best fighters in the world. Even willing to constantly give-up home-advantage. In the process he loses his own title. He's fighting the very best, so obviously has more chance of losing.

Fighter B wins an alphabet title. Spends four years at home defending it against "bums/leftovers."

Now how the fuck can any serious fan regard fighter B as the "champ."

Bute should be BEHIND Froch in the rankings. He shouldn't have any right to dictate terms to a fighter with a far superior resume.

To repeat - If it's lopsided or a KO the rematch is scrapped. They're asking for a rematch if it's CLOSE. They (Team FRoch) admitted the scorecards were wrong in the Ward fight. That's why no-one cares for a rematch.

However, what if it's like Bute-Andrade 1? What if Froch knocks him out but they still award Bute the victory? Does Froch, the fighter with the far superior record, the former two time alpahbet holder, the super-six finalist, NOT deserve a rematch? And why the fuck should he go back to Canada for it.

Come on now, lets keep it real (IBF means superiority?.. deary, deary me )

Fenster can't help himself from disparaging Bute. Fenster, we've danced this jig before so I'll bit my toungue and deal with your provocative remarks regarding Bute. Make no mistake though, Fenster, if they sign to fight, you and I are doing a sigbet, my friend.

[Fenster]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

No I'm saying I don't even regard Bute as champion. His silly IBF belt means NOTHING when it comes to comparing him with the worlds best supermiddles.

It's real simple to understand -

Fighter A spends the last two years challenging all the best fighters in the world. Even willing to constantly give-up home-advantage. In the process he loses his own title. He's fighting the very best, so obviously has more chance of losing.

Fighter B wins an alphabet title. Spends four years at home defending it against "bums/leftovers."

Now how the fuck can any serious fan regard fighter B as the "champ."

Bute should be BEHIND Froch in the rankings. He shouldn't have any right to dictate terms to a fighter with a far superior resume.

To repeat - If it's lopsided or a KO the rematch is scrapped. They're asking for a rematch if it's CLOSE. They (Team FRoch) admitted the scorecards were wrong in the Ward fight. That's why no-one cares for a rematch.

However, what if it's like Bute-Andrade 1? What if Froch knocks him out but they still award Bute the victory? Does Froch, the fighter with the far superior record, the former two time alpahbet holder, the super-six finalist, NOT deserve a rematch? And why the fuck should he go back to Canada for it.

Come on now, lets keep it real (IBF means superiority?.. deary, deary me )

Fenster can't help himself from disparaging Bute. Fenster, we've danced this jig before so I'll bit my toungue and deal with your provocative remarks regarding Bute. Make no mistake though, Fenster, if they sign to fight, you and I are doing a sigbet, my friend.

I haven't insulted Bute in the slightest. I'm merely making a comparison between him and one of the worlds proven best supermiddles. Quite simply - FRoch has the form in the book, as of yet Bute does not.

I think Bute will beat Froch.

Who I think wins is utterly irrelevant to my argument though

[Violent Demise]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

No I'm saying I don't even regard Bute as champion. His silly IBF belt means NOTHING when it comes to comparing him with the worlds best supermiddles.

It's real simple to understand -

Fighter A spends the last two years challenging all the best fighters in the world. Even willing to constantly give-up home-advantage. In the process he loses his own title. He's fighting the very best, so obviously has more chance of losing.

Fighter B wins an alphabet title. Spends four years at home defending it against "bums/leftovers."

Now how the fuck can any serious fan regard fighter B as the "champ."

Bute should be BEHIND Froch in the rankings. He shouldn't have any right to dictate terms to a fighter with a far superior resume.

To repeat - If it's lopsided or a KO the rematch is scrapped. They're asking for a rematch if it's CLOSE. They (Team FRoch) admitted the scorecards were wrong in the Ward fight. That's why no-one cares for a rematch.

However, what if it's like Bute-Andrade 1? What if Froch knocks him out but they still award Bute the victory? Does Froch, the fighter with the far superior record, the former two time alpahbet holder, the super-six finalist, NOT deserve a rematch? And why the fuck should he go back to Canada for it.

Come on now, lets keep it real (IBF means superiority?.. deary, deary me )

Froch was part of a tournament to find out the divisions best fighter. So of course he was gonna fight top fighters. Arthur Abraham did the same thing. Should he be calling shots to? Come on now. Froch is the challenger coming off a bad loss. He's 2-2 in his last 4 fights and by alrights should be 2-3 in his last 5. He's in no position to try and make demands.

And enough with the Froch goes every where to fight like enjoys being a road warrior. That's bullshit. The man bitched, complained and threatened to pull out the tournament at least 3 times cuz he couldn't fight at home. It took legal action and a compromise to even get him to fight Abraham. Real fucking warrior

[Master]

Froch and Bute should happen 2nd and 3rd best super middles in the world fighting one another. The fight will be more competitive but agree if Bute wins he will not want to fight in the UK. If Froch cannot get the Bute fight he should chase Kessler for the rematch, and he could have a UK fight in the interim period and maybe beat up Groves or Degale.

Direll does not deserve a shot yet. Froch should not even think about going up to light heavy yet either.

[shza]

I'm betting Bute-Hopkins is the fight that will get made. Hopkins has been saying that's the fight he wants ever since the Dawson fiasco. And Hopkins has said throughout that the fight would happen in Montreal. Personally, I'd rather see Bute/Froch (and Hopkins/Dawson -- I'm in that minority), but I think Hopkins/Bute may be the more competitive (if less exciting) fight.

[Fenster]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

No I'm saying I don't even regard Bute as champion. His silly IBF belt means NOTHING when it comes to comparing him with the worlds best supermiddles.

It's real simple to understand -

Fighter A spends the last two years challenging all the best fighters in the world. Even willing to constantly give-up home-advantage. In the process he loses his own title. He's fighting the very best, so obviously has more chance of losing.

Fighter B wins an alphabet title. Spends four years at home defending it against "bums/leftovers."

Now how the fuck can any serious fan regard fighter B as the "champ."

Bute should be BEHIND Froch in the rankings. He shouldn't have any right to dictate terms to a fighter with a far superior resume.

To repeat - If it's lopsided or a KO the rematch is scrapped. They're asking for a rematch if it's CLOSE. They (Team FRoch) admitted the scorecards were wrong in the Ward fight. That's why no-one cares for a rematch.

However, what if it's like Bute-Andrade 1? What if Froch knocks him out but they still award Bute the victory? Does Froch, the fighter with the far superior record, the former two time alpahbet holder, the super-six finalist, NOT deserve a rematch? And why the fuck should he go back to Canada for it.

Come on now, lets keep it real (IBF means superiority?.. deary, deary me )

Froch was part of a tournament to find out the divisions best fighter. So of course he was gonna fight top fighters. Arthur Abraham did the same thing. Should he be calling shots to? Come on now. Froch is the challenger coming off a bad loss. He's 2-2 in his last 4 fights and by alrights should be 2-3 in his last 5. He's in no position to try and make demands.

And enough with the Froch goes every where to fight like enjoys being a road warrior. That's bullshit. The man bitched, complained and threatened to pull out the tournament at least 3 times cuz he couldn't fight at home. It took legal action and a compromise to even get him to fight Abraham. Real fucking warrior

To say Froch is 2-2 in his last four compared with Bute's 4-0, which gives the unbeaten fighter the advantage, is RIDICULOUS.

How has Bute fared against the worlds best? Ward? Not fought him. Kessler? Not fought him. Dirrell? Not fought him. How about Jermain Taylor? Not fought him. Abraham? Not fought him. How about his fellow Canadian Jean Pascal? Nope, not fought him.

Who the fuck has Bute been fighting then? Well he fought "journeyman" Jesse Brinkly. Brian Magee, who Froch knocked unconcious a thousand years ago. Jean Paul Mendy, who was coming off a brutal 1st round KO loss to Sakio Bika. And old road warrior Glenn Johnson, who was guess what? That's right, coming off a loss to Froch.

Regardless of the super six stopping Bute from facing the best, the FACT is he hasn't fought the best. We don't know what his current record would be. For all we know he loses to Ward, Kessler, Dirrell, Froch etc. The top guys could have already ruined him. We just don't know.

Finally.. whether or not Froch bitched and moaned about fighting everyone in their backyard he still turned up and fought them. Respect. And that's another Fact. Fact.

[Dropanuke]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

So what your saying is you support the ridiculous idea of challengers demanding a rematch clause, right? Or is it only when it benefits a UK fighter?

So if Bute-Froch were to look like Ward-Froch there would be a rematch? Everybody know the fight was lopsided but the moronic scores say otherwise. A rematch would be meaningless.

No I'm saying I don't even regard Bute as champion. His silly IBF belt means NOTHING when it comes to comparing him with the worlds best supermiddles.

It's real simple to understand -

Fighter A spends the last two years challenging all the best fighters in the world. Even willing to constantly give-up home-advantage. In the process he loses his own title. He's fighting the very best, so obviously has more chance of losing.

Fighter B wins an alphabet title. Spends four years at home defending it against "bums/leftovers."

Now how the fuck can any serious fan regard fighter B as the "champ."

Bute should be BEHIND Froch in the rankings. He shouldn't have any right to dictate terms to a fighter with a far superior resume.

To repeat - If it's lopsided or a KO the rematch is scrapped. They're asking for a rematch if it's CLOSE. They (Team FRoch) admitted the scorecards were wrong in the Ward fight. That's why no-one cares for a rematch.

However, what if it's like Bute-Andrade 1? What if Froch knocks him out but they still award Bute the victory? Does Froch, the fighter with the far superior record, the former two time alpahbet holder, the super-six finalist, NOT deserve a rematch? And why the fuck should he go back to Canada for it.

Come on now, lets keep it real (IBF means superiority?.. deary, deary me )

Froch was part of a tournament to find out the divisions best fighter. So of course he was gonna fight top fighters. Arthur Abraham did the same thing. Should he be calling shots to? Come on now. Froch is the challenger coming off a bad loss. He's 2-2 in his last 4 fights and by alrights should be 2-3 in his last 5. He's in no position to try and make demands.

And enough with the Froch goes every where to fight like enjoys being a road warrior. That's bullshit. The man bitched, complained and threatened to pull out the tournament at least 3 times cuz he couldn't fight at home. It took legal action and a compromise to even get him to fight Abraham. Real fucking warrior

To say Froch is 2-2 in his last four compared with Bute's 4-0, which gives the unbeaten fighter the advantage, is RIDICULOUS.

How has Bute fared against the worlds best? Ward? Not fought him. Kessler? Not fought him. Dirrell? Not fought him. How about Jermain Taylor? Not fought him. Abraham? Not fought him. How about his fellow Canadian Jean Pascal? Nope, not fought him.

Who the fuck has Bute been fighting then? Well he fought "journeyman" Jesse Brinkly. Brian Magee, who Froch knocked unconcious a thousand years ago. Jean Paul Mendy, who was coming off a brutal 1st round KO loss to Sakio Bika. And old road warrior Glenn Johnson, who was guess what? That's right, coming off a loss to Froch.

Regardless of the super six stopping Bute from facing the best, the FACT is he hasn't fought the best. We don't know what his current record would be. For all we know he loses to Ward, Kessler, Dirrell, Froch etc. The top guys could have already ruined him. We just don't know.

Finally.. whether or not Froch bitched and moaned about fighting everyone in their backyard he still turned up and fought them. Respect. And that's another Fact. Fact.

Fucking well put!!!!

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