Bernard Hopkins vs Joe Calzaghe I and result of a hypothetical rematch

[erics44]

I deal in facts only.

Fact 1. He had a hard fight against Robin Reid. A SD win that many thought Reid deserved to win. Rematch? No.

Fact 2. He had a close fight against Bernard Hopkins in which he was knocked down and stunned more than once. A SD win that many gave to Hopkins. Rematch? No.

Fact 3. He destroyed Mario Veit in less than 3 minutes. It was a legit knock out without controversy. Rematch? Yes.

Facts don't fucking lie.

the bit in bold isnt a fact

this alone makes your post inacurrate and i am unable to continue with our conversation until you right your wrong

[AdamGB]

Obviously I read your post 10 days ago denise and only got the courage to reply now. You're so important that I had to spend 10 days getting fired up to deal with you...

Also Calzaghe didn't rematch Hopkins cos he knew he'd lose.

You must be psychic Venereal... You can clearly look deep into a man and see what he is thinking.



(did you ever think calzaghe might think he won clear enough? Shocking idea I know!)

[Dia bando]

Obviously I read your post 10 days ago denise and only got the courage to reply now. You're so important that I had to spend 10 days getting fired up to deal with you...

Also Calzaghe didn't rematch Hopkins cos he knew he'd lose.

You must be psychic Venereal... You can clearly look deep into a man and see what he is thinking.



(did you ever think calzaghe might think he won clear enough? Shocking idea I know!)

All way's interesting people want Hopkins, to win but did he, some say a close fight I say not Joe was made the winner, if you don't like it's how it go's don't bitch about it Hopkins lost take it on the chin if you can.

[Violent Demise]

Obviously I read your post 10 days ago denise and only got the courage to reply now. You're so important that I had to spend 10 days getting fired up to deal with you...

Also Calzaghe didn't rematch Hopkins cos he knew he'd lose.

You must be psychic Venereal... You can clearly look deep into a man and see what he is thinking.



(did you ever think calzaghe might think he won clear enough? Shocking idea I know!)

Than Calzaghe's even dumber than you. That or the crack must of fucked up his brain. The man gets dropped. Hurt. Clearly loses at least 4 rounds without question. Escapes with a SD gift. Yet he considers that a clear win? And i'm sure you agree with him

[AdamGB]

Yes, again as shocking as it may sound - some people may not agree with your narrow, blinkered way of thinking.

I think if Calzaghe was a natural 154lb fighter and Hopkins wasn't so fucking lazy in that fight he would have pulled out the win. But he didn't, boo hoo

Hopkins didn't have size on his side like he had in his precious big fights and he sure as fuck didn't have youth or workrate. He was a world class spoiler in that fight though and that's what made it so close... Its up to a judge whether they favour spoilibg tactics or not (or whether, like you they simply just dislike brits).

The diving and play acting he did whilst calzaghe arse raped him is proof enough that the pace was just too much for the old man. Oh well, nevermind... Hopkins has done enough since to redeem the loss, I doubt he worries too much about it - you on the on the other hand still seem pathetically butt hurt by it, grow a pair.

[Violent Demise]

Yes, again as shocking as it may sound - some people may not agree with your narrow, blinkered way of thinking.

I think if Calzaghe was a natural 154lb fighter and Hopkins wasn't so fucking lazy in that fight he would have pulled out the win. But he didn't, boo hoo

Hopkins didn't have size on his side like he had in his precious big fights and he sure as fuck didn't have youth or workrate. He was a world class spoiler in that fight though and that's what made it so close... Its up to a judge whether they favour spoilibg tactics or not (or whether, like you they simply just dislike brits).

The diving and play acting he did whilst calzaghe arse raped him is proof enough that the pace was just too much for the old man. Oh well, nevermind... Hopkins has done enough since to redeem the loss, I doubt he worries too much about it - you on the on the other hand still seem pathetically butt hurt by it, grow a pair.

Seriously man, I don't think they came any more stupider than you. And believe me that's saying a lot when you got eric's dumb ass posting on the same thread. But I doubt even he would embarrass himself and call Hopkins lazy. It doesn't even matter in what moronic way you meant it, Hopkins and the word lazy don't go together. Unless you gonna tell me you know guys in there mid 40's who are in better shape than most 20 year olds and can compete with boxings elite than you can't call Hopkins lazy. I don't doubt you know a bunch 40 year old men. But I call bullshit if you gonna claim they can compete with boxings elite.

And it doesn't matter what Calzaghe and Hopkins did and didn't do to win and lose there fight. Bottom line is it was a close fight that left a lot of unfinished business which Calzaghe refused to clear up cuz he knew in his heart that he got a gift win. I told you about a million times before. Facts don't fucking lie. Which is why I only deal in facts. You should to. But no. You refuse to accept them? Why? Does your lust for Calzaghe burn that intensively? Do you even know what a fact actually means? Come on. Tell me.

[erics44]

Yes, again as shocking as it may sound - some people may not agree with your narrow, blinkered way of thinking.

I think if Calzaghe was a natural 154lb fighter and Hopkins wasn't so fucking lazy in that fight he would have pulled out the win. But he didn't, boo hoo

Hopkins didn't have size on his side like he had in his precious big fights and he sure as fuck didn't have youth or workrate. He was a world class spoiler in that fight though and that's what made it so close... Its up to a judge whether they favour spoilibg tactics or not (or whether, like you they simply just dislike brits).

The diving and play acting he did whilst calzaghe arse raped him is proof enough that the pace was just too much for the old man. Oh well, nevermind... Hopkins has done enough since to redeem the loss, I doubt he worries too much about it - you on the on the other hand still seem pathetically butt hurt by it, grow a pair.

Seriously man, I don't think they came any more stupider than you. And believe me that's saying a lot when you got eric's dumb ass posting on the same thread. But I doubt even he would embarrass himself and call Hopkins lazy. It doesn't even matter in what moronic way you meant it, Hopkins and the word lazy don't go together. Unless you gonna tell me you know guys in there mid 40's who are in better shape than most 20 year olds and can compete with boxings elite than you can't call Hopkins lazy. I don't doubt you know a bunch 40 year old men. But I call bullshit if you gonna claim they can compete with boxings elite.

And it doesn't matter what Calzaghe and Hopkins did and didn't do to win and lose there fight. Bottom line is it was a close fight that left a lot of unfinished business which Calzaghe refused to clear up cuz he knew in his heart that he got a gift win. I told you about a million times before. Facts don't fucking lie. Which is why I only deal in facts. You should to. But no. You refuse to accept them? Why? Does your lust for Calzaghe burn that intensively? Do you even know what a fact actually means? Come on. Tell me.

Thing is youre still behind on the score cards in this one big man

You might be a bit more "in the running" if you didnt keep saying how you only deal with the facts and then say how hurt Calzaghe was through out the fight - which ever way you think the fight went neither man was visibly hurt at any time

[Violent Demise]

Yes, again as shocking as it may sound - some people may not agree with your narrow, blinkered way of thinking.

I think if Calzaghe was a natural 154lb fighter and Hopkins wasn't so fucking lazy in that fight he would have pulled out the win. But he didn't, boo hoo

Hopkins didn't have size on his side like he had in his precious big fights and he sure as fuck didn't have youth or workrate. He was a world class spoiler in that fight though and that's what made it so close... Its up to a judge whether they favour spoilibg tactics or not (or whether, like you they simply just dislike brits).

The diving and play acting he did whilst calzaghe arse raped him is proof enough that the pace was just too much for the old man. Oh well, nevermind... Hopkins has done enough since to redeem the loss, I doubt he worries too much about it - you on the on the other hand still seem pathetically butt hurt by it, grow a pair.

Seriously man, I don't think they came any more stupider than you. And believe me that's saying a lot when you got eric's dumb ass posting on the same thread. But I doubt even he would embarrass himself and call Hopkins lazy. It doesn't even matter in what moronic way you meant it, Hopkins and the word lazy don't go together. Unless you gonna tell me you know guys in there mid 40's who are in better shape than most 20 year olds and can compete with boxings elite than you can't call Hopkins lazy. I don't doubt you know a bunch 40 year old men. But I call bullshit if you gonna claim they can compete with boxings elite.

And it doesn't matter what Calzaghe and Hopkins did and didn't do to win and lose there fight. Bottom line is it was a close fight that left a lot of unfinished business which Calzaghe refused to clear up cuz he knew in his heart that he got a gift win. I told you about a million times before. Facts don't fucking lie. Which is why I only deal in facts. You should to. But no. You refuse to accept them? Why? Does your lust for Calzaghe burn that intensively? Do you even know what a fact actually means? Come on. Tell me.

Thing is youre still behind on the score cards in this one big man

You might be a bit more "in the running" if you didnt keep saying how you only deal with the facts and then say how hurt Calzaghe was through out the fight - which ever way you think the fight went neither man was visibly hurt at any time

Oh you're right. What was I thinking? Calzaghe wasn't hurt when he went down. He was just tying his shoes. And at the end of the 6th round where he staggered backwards after taking a clean shot he wasn't really hurt. He was just working on his 2 step.

[AdamGB]

Yes, again as shocking as it may sound - some people may not agree with your narrow, blinkered way of thinking.

I think if Calzaghe was a natural 154lb fighter and Hopkins wasn't so fucking lazy in that fight he would have pulled out the win. But he didn't, boo hoo

Hopkins didn't have size on his side like he had in his precious big fights and he sure as fuck didn't have youth or workrate. He was a world class spoiler in that fight though and that's what made it so close... Its up to a judge whether they favour spoilibg tactics or not (or whether, like you they simply just dislike brits).

The diving and play acting he did whilst calzaghe arse raped him is proof enough that the pace was just too much for the old man. Oh well, nevermind... Hopkins has done enough since to redeem the loss, I doubt he worries too much about it - you on the on the other hand still seem pathetically butt hurt by it, grow a pair.

Seriously man, I don't think they came any more stupider than you. And believe me that's saying a lot when you got eric's dumb ass posting on the same thread. But I doubt even he would embarrass himself and call Hopkins lazy. It doesn't even matter in what moronic way you meant it, Hopkins and the word lazy don't go together. Unless you gonna tell me you know guys in there mid 40's who are in better shape than most 20 year olds and can compete with boxings elite than you can't call Hopkins lazy. I don't doubt you know a bunch 40 year old men. But I call bullshit if you gonna claim they can compete with boxings elite.

And it doesn't matter what Calzaghe and Hopkins did and didn't do to win and lose there fight. Bottom line is it was a close fight that left a lot of unfinished business which Calzaghe refused to clear up cuz he knew in his heart that he got a gift win. I told you about a million times before. Facts don't fucking lie. Which is why I only deal in facts. You should to. But no. You refuse to accept them? Why? Does your lust for Calzaghe burn that intensively? Do you even know what a fact actually means? Come on. Tell me.

What a complete and utter retard... I'm not talking about whether hopkins is in shape compared to other 40 year olds. What does that have to do with this fight?! He wasn't busy enough in the fight... Hence he lost. Maybe if he'd had a bigger output we'd be having a different discussion - but he didn't.

This is what makes you pointless to talk to, I say Hopkins was lazy in the fight and your sensative little soul thinks I'm saying that he sits on his sofa year rounding eating chips and getting fat. I' talking about his punch output in this fight you complete moron, so save me the rant on how elite he is for his age.

I'm not surprised you want me to explain what a fact is to you, seeing as you consistently struggle to differentiate between fact and opinion.

[Gandalf]

Hopkins punch output was atrocious. That is obvious to anyone and when you are outlanded as much as he was then the fight was no way close. Hopkins was outlanded so badly that he needed to fake lowblows just to get through it.

"Ooh but Hopkins landed 2 clean shots!". Sure, but Calzaghe tapped him 20 times. That is the round to Calzaghe.