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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by J_C View Post
    Martinez is fighting St.Pats day 17th March against Macklin, theres no way he can make this fight in time people.
    You might read the article linked in the post before commenting on it:

    Mayweather said he would consider middleweight champion Sergio Martinez on May 5 if a Pacquiao fight could not be made, providing Martinez could make 150 pounds. Martinez, who is the third-ranked fighter behind Mayweather and Pacquiao in the Yahoo! Sports rankings, would do that, promoter Lou DiBella said. “It would hurt him to make 150, but he could do it,” DiBella said. “We’ve had this conversation and he has told me he could do it. If Mayweather wants to fight on May 5, Sergio absolutely, unequivocally would do it. He would want the opportunity to fight the best fighter in the world and he believes that Mayweather is the best fighter in the world right now.”

    Martinez would have to abandon a planned March 17 fight with Matthew Macklin, but given the money involved in a Mayweather fight, that would not be an issue.
    That said, this fight won't get made.

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    I didn't think Floyd would do a catchweight and would fight at 154, which is best for both guys. It may be because they think Martinez is a small 160 pounder and will make 154 easy and have an advantage, so decided on 150 to even it up. Credit to both guys if the fight happens.
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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    I didn't think Floyd would do a catchweight and would fight at 154, which is best for both guys. It may be because they think Martinez is a small 160 pounder and will make 154 easy and have an advantage, so decided on 150 to even it up. Credit to both guys if the fight happens.
    I'm assuming that 150 came from Martinez originally throwing that catch-weight out as bait to Manny (bait which was not taken). I too would prefer to see this at 154 but I don't think it's an issue of Floyd pulling 150 out of nowhere and hoping that Martinez wouldn't agree to it. Martinez's representation/offer came first.

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
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    I didn't think Floyd would do a catchweight and would fight at 154, which is best for both guys. It may be because they think Martinez is a small 160 pounder and will make 154 easy and have an advantage, so decided on 150 to even it up. Credit to both guys if the fight happens.
    I'm assuming that 150 came from Martinez originally throwing that catch-weight out as bait to Manny (bait which was not taken). I too would prefer to see this at 154 but I don't think it's an issue of Floyd pulling 150 out of nowhere and hoping that Martinez wouldn't agree to it. Martinez's representation/offer came first.
    This is correct and in addition, I believe he extended the 150 offer to Floyd too. Still, Floyd has given Manny a ton of crap for fighting catchweights. If this fight were to be made, I would prefer it at 154. Floyd fought Oscar there years ago anyway and now he is bigger than he was then so it isn't even as much of a stretch.

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Is Martinez or Pacquiao a tougher opponent for Mayweather?

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Is Martinez or Pacquiao a tougher opponent for Mayweather?
    Martinez at is the tougher opponent.
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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Is Martinez or Pacquiao a tougher opponent for Mayweather?
    I think Martinez at 154 is tougher than Pac at 147. I don't know about Martinez at 150. It's at least a question (so better than any other alternative).

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    I didn't think Floyd would do a catchweight and would fight at 154, which is best for both guys. It may be because they think Martinez is a small 160 pounder and will make 154 easy and have an advantage, so decided on 150 to even it up. Credit to both guys if the fight happens.
    I'm assuming that 150 came from Martinez originally throwing that catch-weight out as bait to Manny (bait which was not taken). I too would prefer to see this at 154 but I don't think it's an issue of Floyd pulling 150 out of nowhere and hoping that Martinez wouldn't agree to it. Martinez's representation/offer came first.
    This is correct and in addition, I believe he extended the 150 offer to Floyd too. Still, Floyd has given Manny a ton of crap for fighting catchweights. If this fight were to be made, I would prefer it at 154. Floyd fought Oscar there years ago anyway and now he is bigger than he was then so it isn't even as much of a stretch.
    Is Floyd bigger? I haven't seen him as big as he was against Oscar since then. Against Ortiz he weighed in fight night at 150, that means he would come in around there against Martinez also. 154 would be nice to Martinez, but even at 150, Martinez will be having a huge advantage come fight night in terms of weight. He will probably be 15-16 pounds heavier than Floyd along with his speed and power. I just think Floyd knows that Martinez isn't a truly complete fighter, and that he can beat him.

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by UKPH View Post
    I have no problem at this catchweight since IF Martinez wants it to do it, since i guess he offered to Pac before and he can also do that to Floyd at 150

    Honestly even at @154 imo Floyd could win this.
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    I didn't think Floyd would do a catchweight and would fight at 154, which is best for both guys. It may be because they think Martinez is a small 160 pounder and will make 154 easy and have an advantage, so decided on 150 to even it up. Credit to both guys if the fight happens.
    I'm assuming that 150 came from Martinez originally throwing that catch-weight out as bait to Manny (bait which was not taken). I too would prefer to see this at 154 but I don't think it's an issue of Floyd pulling 150 out of nowhere and hoping that Martinez wouldn't agree to it. Martinez's representation/offer came first.
    This is correct and in addition, I believe he extended the 150 offer to Floyd too. Still, Floyd has given Manny a ton of crap for fighting catchweights. If this fight were to be made, I would prefer it at 154. Floyd fought Oscar there years ago anyway and now he is bigger than he was then so it isn't even as much of a stretch.
    Is Floyd bigger? I haven't seen him as big as he was against Oscar since then. Against Ortiz he weighed in fight night at 150, that means he would come in around there against Martinez also. 154 would be nice to Martinez, but even at 150, Martinez will be having a huge advantage come fight night in terms of weight. He will probably be 15-16 pounds heavier than Floyd along with his speed and power. I just think Floyd knows that Martinez isn't a truly complete fighter, and that he can beat him.
    Floyd has grown into more of a welterweight since he fought Oscar. He never was a smaller welterweight, but now he is a good size one. I don't actually think Sergio is that much bigger than Floyd. Sergio strikes me as an average-sized junior middleweight. He went up in weight for the money (Pavlik), but really he is a small middleweight. Macklin has said as much. Sergio really is like an inch or an inch and a half taller than Maywather. Sergio isn't truly a complete fighter, which is why it's so impressive that he's done what he's done. He didn't start boxing until 20. He wasn't in the Olympics. He's picked up a lot of what he's got in his thirties. In that respect, he's at a big disadvantage against somewhat like Floyd who has boxed since he was 10. It's why the majority of the time you can't just train an ex-college football player to be a boxer, it's a totally different skillset.

    Back to the point, frankly, and I'm a big Sergio fan, I believe Floyd would beat Sergio, and that it would be a good, competitive fight to watch. I don't understand why Floyd wouldn't just face him at 154. It would help Sergio, sure, but I still favor Floyd by a little bit even at junior middleweight. Plus there is the risk that Sergio comes into the fight weight drained and that would tarnish the accomplishment of beating him.

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-iole_mayweather_pacman011812

    Wonder what the haters will say if this one gets made?

    Let me guess..it usually goes something like this. "Wellll..I'll believe it when they're in the ring together and the bell goes for round 1 - but if this fight happens I'll have nothing but respect for Floyd"

    Day after fight night...

    "Man it was like Martinez grew old during the fight! Floyd never would have won against the Martinez that beat Paul Will..He needs to fight X, Y, Z if he ever wants to be considered great!"

    Looks like they're getting ready to give Mackie-boy some step aside money..
    He's full of shit. It's never going to happen.

    We've been waiting since 2008 for Manny/Floyd. With how Floyd works, he'll be in the ring with Martinez in 2017 when Martinez is old as dirt.

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    Gotta love martinez low guard and a bit more relaxed around the ring than pac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    I didn't think Floyd would do a catchweight and would fight at 154, which is best for both guys. It may be because they think Martinez is a small 160 pounder and will make 154 easy and have an advantage, so decided on 150 to even it up. Credit to both guys if the fight happens.
    You beat me to it..Martinez has said before that he is a small middleweight and dont forget when Floyd fought Oscar he only managed 150 on the scales and 147 on fight night.

    Having said that, fighting Martinez at 154 would be the better victory if only to give people no room to talk shit.

    But 150 isn't as unfair as people think..Again though, I'd prefer he left the catchweights for the king (we know who that is)

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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    You know what the "haters will say" when this fight gets made?

    After 5 years... it's about damn time.

    But, on a more serious note, if he give Martinez 154, then I will bow down to Floyd. Shit.. Martinez does not really have a good Style for Floyd either, does he? But he can really bang! I was amazed at what he did to Pavlik's face in Atlantic City and his ome shot on PWill a couple years ago. But this.. This would be a real tough fight to call.

    Martinez should totally whoop Margarito's ass if the Floyd fight falls through.
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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Go Floyd, If Manny don't want the fight May 5th I'm sure Martinez will jump at the chance
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    Default Re: Mayweather wants Martinez at 150 if no Pac Fight..

    Did you see how many times he got hit by barker. I think Floyd wins quite easily but Martinez could give him a few problems.
    Would rather see Pac and Martinez. More of a challenge for pac but Martinez would still lose.
    I cannot complain if this fight is made. I only see three people to put against Pac or Floyd if they dont fight each other. Martinez, Bradley or marquez again. Would love to see a Floyd or Pac rematch with Marquez. I think he is more confortable at the weight now and would have a better chance.
    However I see Floyd beating all of these people even Pac. But they are the only ones with a chance to make a fight against Floyd slightly competitive.

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