Floyd vs prime fighters?

[Maravilla2012]

Floyds not that great. All his wins were very lucky and im sure he would have beaten by a prime margocheato. Margacheato has amazing hand skills and brilliant footwork..no wonder floyd avoided him.
Watching margacheato fight is pure poetry and he will be a hof..lol
Any fighter floyd fights in the prime or out of it he adjusts to suit that level.
Stop hating and being jealous. Respect his skills.

The thing is chris, there will always be reasons to hate floyd and discredit him but just keep paying to see him loose as its never gonna happen.

Ps: dont forgot mosely in his prime, i seem to recall him having a bad tooth that prevented this fight from happening many moons ago. And cotto ducking him, the list goes on..

There is a difference between hating and asking a question. I would rather hear from people who are not floyd dick riders with a pic of him. I want to hear from people who enjoy the sport of boxing to see great fights as I do with an unbiased opinion. Based off your sarcastic response i would assume you are a floyd dick rider.

I thought Mosley had been calling Floyd out since the early 2000's? I had also heard that the reason that Mayweather retired the first time after Hatton was because his next fights would have been De la Hoya rematch or a possible fight with Cotto?

[armyash]

Good thread. It's definitely a good discussion and I can see why people say that PBF didn't destroy anyone in their primes apart from Chico.

The way I look at it is PBF has handled his opponents with relative ease and no one has faced the same opponents and dismantled them the same way. give or take 1 or 2.

[Manos de Piedra]

Just wanted to ask you guys if you think pac is still in his prime or not because g3org3 neg rep'd me saying he isn't. I think he still is, the reason he didn't look good against Marquez and Mosley is because they didn't just come forward or stand there taking shots. They moved around and away from Pacquiao's left and pac being the fighter he is didn't know how to deal with it, making him look not as special as when guy walk to him. I believe the cramps are just an excuse if not then Ariza isn't doing a good job. I don't mean any disrespect to pac but people sometimes have to understand that their favourite fighter isn't perfect and is mortal.

[imp]

Just wanted to ask you guys if you think pac is still in his prime or not because g3org3 neg rep'd me saying he isn't. I think he still is, the reason he didn't look good against Marquez and Mosley is because they didn't just come forward or stand there taking shots. They moved around and away from Pacquiao's left and pac being the fighter he is didn't know how to deal with it, making him look not as special as when guy walk to him. I believe the cramps are just an excuse if not then Ariza isn't doing a good job. I don't mean any disrespect to pac but people sometimes have to understand that their favourite fighter isn't perfect and is mortal.

As a floyd fan i still cant knock pacs achievements but i always wonder if pac never fought marquez at all how much more of a icon he would be.

The three marquez fights showed that even on paper pac has all the advantages but against a mexican warrior like marquez the result will always be the same.. Thats why marquez 4 will not be next but cotto will be at 147.

[Master]

Pac Man is on the slide and he should have fought Floyd when he was buzzing when he was beating Cotto and Marg.

[Chino]

Floyd vs Prime Fighters?

Philip Ndou

[Galaxy]

Genaro Henandez had never been beaten at 130 & was rated #1 when Floyd fought him
Manfredy (while not great) was on a 23 out of 24 streak with 1 fight being a nc
Corrales was undefeated, rated #1 at 130 & #5 p4p
Castillo was Ring champ at 135 & #1 in the rematch
Hatton (although maybe past his best) was Ring champ & undefeated

That's leaving out many guys that were also rated when Floyd fought them but may not have been in their prime...

[THE THIRD MAN]

DLH, Mosley and Trinidad from 1999 all give Mayweather big trouble.

Prime Chavez loses to Mayweather, prime Whitaker would be a chess match, prime KT has a chance (cuts the ring off better than most), but probably loses a decision.

Could Mayweather beat prime Duran at Lightweight or prime Hearns at Welterweight? Despite my admiration for Mayweather's defensive skills, i doubt it.

[Leighton]

Just wanted to ask you guys if you think pac is still in his prime or not because g3org3 neg rep'd me saying he isn't. I think he still is, the reason he didn't look good against Marquez and Mosley is because they didn't just come forward or stand there taking shots. They moved around and away from Pacquiao's left and pac being the fighter he is didn't know how to deal with it, making him look not as special as when guy walk to him. I believe the cramps are just an excuse if not then Ariza isn't doing a good job. I don't mean any disrespect to pac but people sometimes have to understand that their favourite fighter isn't perfect and is mortal.

He just doesnt look as nippy any more. Look at him about 4 or 5 fights ago. He was always jumping in and out with his punches. Like a munchkin on a sugar high. So much faster and more agile. Now he looks like he is only in the ring because he has to be there.

[imp]

Just wanted to ask you guys if you think pac is still in his prime or not because g3org3 neg rep'd me saying he isn't. I think he still is, the reason he didn't look good against Marquez and Mosley is because they didn't just come forward or stand there taking shots. They moved around and away from Pacquiao's left and pac being the fighter he is didn't know how to deal with it, making him look not as special as when guy walk to him. I believe the cramps are just an excuse if not then Ariza isn't doing a good job. I don't mean any disrespect to pac but people sometimes have to understand that their favourite fighter isn't perfect and is mortal.

He just doesnt look as nippy any more. Look at him about 4 or 5 fights ago. He was always jumping in and out with his punches. Like a munchkin on a sugar high. So much faster and more agile. Now he looks like he is only in the ring because he has to be there.

Why not sing praise to pacs opponents? Mosely was past it and seemed happy to touch gloves more than fight but was still dangerous.
Marquez done a great job on keeping pac at bay and arguably won.
Pac is a great fighter but we cant say pac is past it because he couldnt dominate these guys.

[Leighton]

Just wanted to ask you guys if you think pac is still in his prime or not because g3org3 neg rep'd me saying he isn't. I think he still is, the reason he didn't look good against Marquez and Mosley is because they didn't just come forward or stand there taking shots. They moved around and away from Pacquiao's left and pac being the fighter he is didn't know how to deal with it, making him look not as special as when guy walk to him. I believe the cramps are just an excuse if not then Ariza isn't doing a good job. I don't mean any disrespect to pac but people sometimes have to understand that their favourite fighter isn't perfect and is mortal.

He just doesnt look as nippy any more. Look at him about 4 or 5 fights ago. He was always jumping in and out with his punches. Like a munchkin on a sugar high. So much faster and more agile. Now he looks like he is only in the ring because he has to be there.

Why not sing praise to pacs opponents? Mosely was past it and seemed happy to touch gloves more than fight but was still dangerous.
Marquez done a great job on keeping pac at bay and arguably won.
Pac is a great fighter but we cant say pac is past it because he couldnt dominate these guys.

I agree that past it is probably too stong a word. He is still there at the top but not as impressive as a few years ago is probably the best way to word it. He had the joke of a fight with Clottey, where Clottey just guarded throughout the fight. He then looked way too slow against Margarito. An unimpressive performance against Mosley and then in my opinion, lost to Marquez.
Im deffinately putting my money on Mayweather if this fight ever happens.

[captainanddew]

pernell whitaker beats him.

[chris6878]

Floyds not that great. All his wins were very lucky and im sure he would have beaten by a prime margocheato. Margacheato has amazing hand skills and brilliant footwork..no wonder floyd avoided him.
Watching margacheato fight is pure poetry and he will be a hof..lol
Any fighter floyd fights in the prime or out of it he adjusts to suit that level.
Stop hating and being jealous. Respect his skills.

The thing is chris, there will always be reasons to hate floyd and discredit him but just keep paying to see him loose as its never gonna happen.

Ps: dont forgot mosely in his prime, i seem to recall him having a bad tooth that prevented this fight from happening many moons ago. And cotto ducking him, the list goes on..

There is a difference between hating and asking a question. I would rather hear from people who are not floyd dick riders with a pic of him. I want to hear from people who enjoy the sport of boxing to see great fights as I do with an unbiased opinion. Based off your sarcastic response i would assume you are a floyd dick rider.

I thought Mosley had been calling Floyd out since the early 2000's? I had also heard that the reason that Mayweather retired the first time after Hatton was because his next fights would have been De la Hoya rematch or a possible fight with Cotto?

Yea that's what I also heard. Didn't de la come of a 2 year lay off to fight Floyd? I remember seeing the jab working for de la until he got tired. And de la was past his prime that fight

[Master]

Floyd beating Oscar at light middle was an excellent performance, beating an unbeaten Corrales, even an undefeated Ricky, beating Manfredy and Hernandez were also good wins.