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    People in mma won't go to boxing because it's harder. No disrespect to MMA im just saying its a way more difficult because your only options are your hands. In MMA there are way more options to master and ofcourse you can't master them all. For example if your going to fight a guy that's a great kick boxer you take him to the ground. If he's a great wrestler you stay away and keep the fight on your feet and if your even you fight to see who's better. But in boxing if the opponent is a better boxer there is no way of beating him. That is why it's more difficult. So boxers could go to a cage and still win aslong as they're not taken down. But if an MMA fighter goes in a ring, his hands are his only options and obviously you'll never beat a guy that's been perfecting one thing while you TRY to perfect many things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelardus View Post
    People in mma won't go to boxing because it's harder. No disrespect to MMA im just saying its a way more difficult because your only options are your hands. In MMA there are way more options to master and ofcourse you can't master them all. For example if your going to fight a guy that's a great kick boxer you take him to the ground. If he's a great wrestler you stay away and keep the fight on your feet and if your even you fight to see who's better. But in boxing if the opponent is a better boxer there is no way of beating him. That is why it's more difficult. So boxers could go to a cage and still win aslong as they're not taken down. But if an MMA fighter goes in a ring, his hands are his only options and obviously you'll never beat a guy that's been perfecting one thing while you TRY to perfect many things.
    The problem with that is there are many types of styles in boxing. You get your power punchers. Your slicksters. You get your counter punchers etc, etc. Most people say styles make fights, which I believe is true. One style in boxing can destroy another but can also lose to another one.
    So if you saying best boxer comes in to MMA ring and can win. And best MMA fighter can come into a boxing ring and doesnt have a chance I dissagree.
    The MMA fighter has just as much chance landing the perfect shot as the boxer has of getting that perfect shot off before he gets taken down.
    If the MMA fighter can walk the boxer to the edge of the cage, the boxer will not be able to hold on to him to avoid punches as he would be taken down. The boxer would simply have to run backwards to avoid clinches and hope to get that shot off. Not to mention if he knocks him down he has to finish him of, which means ground and pound. And many MMA fights have been finished by the injured guy on the floor getting hold of the punching agressor and submitting him.
    No body has sucsessfuly come into the UFC and become Number one with only one focus. Wth the acception of Brock Lesner but he has now been found out to be weak against punchers so he will need to learn some boxing to evade such strikes before taking his opponents down. Of course there only the opponents that have the ability to stop one of his take downs in the first place and not many people can do that. Only very skilled MMA fighters.
    So either sport you enter the ring with a heavy handycap.

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    I regard boxing as an art form and the ultimate act of manly combat. It is about guile and ability and at it's best is like ballet with blood. It is beautiful to watch and I cannot say the same about MMA. It's irrelevant about what wins on the street as that is common and lowly and only a thug fights in the street. Combat in the boxing ring elevates a man and makes him respected. Combat in the street only leads to a knife in the back and a spell behind bars.

    Boxing is a sublime art whilst MMA is barroom brawling plus wrestling. There is nothing beautiful about MMA, but to see the likes of Toney, Barrera and Calzaghe put on a display is glorious, profound and visionary. Then of course you have post fight interviews and it all becomes somewhat less profound, but that is besides the point. They handle it better than Chuck Giampa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I regard boxing as an art form and the ultimate act of manly combat. It is about guile and ability and at it's best is like ballet with blood. It is beautiful to watch and I cannot say the same about MMA. It's irrelevant about what wins on the street as that is common and lowly and only a thug fights in the street. Combat in the boxing ring elevates a man and makes him respected. Combat in the street only leads to a knife in the back and a spell behind bars.

    Boxing is a sublime art whilst MMA is barroom brawling plus wrestling. There is nothing beautiful about MMA, but to see the likes of Toney, Barrera and Calzaghe put on a display is glorious, profound and visionary. Then of course you have post fight interviews and it all becomes somewhat less profound, but that is besides the point. They handle it better than Chuck Giampa.
    MMA has it's place so doe's boxing,what I have seen of MMA or mixed marshal art's fighter's some have done well in boxing.But most can't box to save there life.
    As with some pro boxer's in MMA if it's stand up fight punching boxer win's but it's not.
    Each sport has it's place and there fan's, you my like both or not as the old say go's beauty is in the eye of the beholder.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I regard boxing as an art form and the ultimate act of manly combat. It is about guile and ability and at it's best is like ballet with blood. It is beautiful to watch and I cannot say the same about MMA. It's irrelevant about what wins on the street as that is common and lowly and only a thug fights in the street. Combat in the boxing ring elevates a man and makes him respected. Combat in the street only leads to a knife in the back and a spell behind bars.

    Boxing is a sublime art whilst MMA is barroom brawling plus wrestling. There is nothing beautiful about MMA, but to see the likes of Toney, Barrera and Calzaghe put on a display is glorious, profound and visionary. Then of course you have post fight interviews and it all becomes somewhat less profound, but that is besides the point. They handle it better than Chuck Giampa.
    In the street was not the best use of words on my behalf. What i meant to say is that if there were no rules to fighting each other it would suit the MMA guy. I am not trying to put MMA above boxing I am just saying that it is a different sport and has many interesting techniques, if you take your time to watch and understand it. Once you learn the ground game it can be interesting to see the submissions and the escapes. I have seen some amasing knock outs with leg kicks, You must have seen Crocop when he was younger. As weel as knees and even slams (Rampage jackson). Or a guy who is getting the crap beaten out of him by the bigger stronger guy and then suddenly pulls off a submission that finishes the fight.
    Alot of people are put off by the ground game but it is essential beacause you cant dissregard it in a fight.
    You cant continue a fight with a broken arm or if you have been rendered unconcious with a triangle choke hold.
    I must admit I prefere to watch a single Major boxing fight but over all an MMA event is usually more exciting. I however pay for Boxing but not for MMA any more.
    If they bought K1 over here im sure you would watch it. You cant hate K1 surely.

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    I shall never take the time to watch MMA with any serious effort just as I shall never learn to knit, learn the rules of baseball or watch people play domino's. I prefer to live in ignorance with what I know to be splendid rather than force myself to respect a couple of goatee sporting muscle Mary's throwing wondrous shapes over one another on the floor.

    I prefer my combat to be of the standing up variety and so boxing is the winner and thus this place is my home. I shall never post on the MMA board as I only want to see people rolling on the floor after being hit by an upright standing chap.

    Boxing has the history and just as chess is the king of board games, boxing is the ultimate in combat sports. Nothing else can compare nor should even enter the equation.

    That is all that I have to say on the issue. Words are wasted on MMA and all the horror that surrounds it. When Joseph Conrad wrote the Heart of Darkness MMA was on his mind and with it the mighty words "Oh the horror". Or was it imperialism? For this matter let it be MMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelardus View Post
    People in mma won't go to boxing because it's harder. No disrespect to MMA im just saying its a way more difficult because your only options are your hands. In MMA there are way more options to master and ofcourse you can't master them all. For example if your going to fight a guy that's a great kick boxer you take him to the ground. If he's a great wrestler you stay away and keep the fight on your feet and if your even you fight to see who's better. But in boxing if the opponent is a better boxer there is no way of beating him. That is why it's more difficult. So boxers could go to a cage and still win aslong as they're not taken down. But if an MMA fighter goes in a ring, his hands are his only options and obviously you'll never beat a guy that's been perfecting one thing while you TRY to perfect many things.
    Your post makes no sense whatsoever.

    If there are more options and ways to win in the UFC than in boxing, then surely there has to be more ways to lose as well.

    If you are the best boxer in the world, then it's true people will find it hard to touch you in boxing, a la Floyd Mayweather, but if you are best Ju Jitsu, grappler, wrestler, striker etc then there might always be somebody out there who can neutralise what you do, and attack your weaknesses.

    That makes the sport harder, not easier.

    As you said yourself in MMA there are more skills to master. Increased complexity cannot lead to simplification or easier fights, it's just a logical impossibility.

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