Game of Thrones (spoilers)

[Gandalf]

For me Dostoevsky, Dickens, Orwell and Burroughs are great writers. People who write about dwarves tend not to be great writers. They can concoct fun stories, but I don't regard them as great. That is why Lord of the Rings is great fun for kids. They are fun adventure books, but little more. The aforementioned writers define humanity with its highs and it's lows and offer vivid reflections of society at large. Fantasy books lack that power. You could argue that 1984 is fantasy, but really it is a massive mirror of totalitarian society. I am unlikely to ever come across a talking tree.

So you haven't read the books, have no interest in the books or series as a genre, yet joined in a discussion about it? Slow day at Saddoboxing.

Nope, the title makes me afraid to read. My last post was about great writers and my belief that anything involving goblins and such is seldom the terrain of great writers. Fantasy is fun for oddball kids. Mind you, I am Gandalf, so should probably bugger off to a cave and write an autobiography or something. I'm sure some dude in eyeliner will love it.

You're such a Gradgrind.

I know, and I said sorry. I mean it.

[killersheep]

For me Dostoevsky, Dickens, Orwell and Burroughs are great writers. People who write about dwarves tend not to be great writers. They can concoct fun stories, but I don't regard them as great. That is why Lord of the Rings is great fun for kids. They are fun adventure books, but little more. The aforementioned writers define humanity with its highs and it's lows and offer vivid reflections of society at large. Fantasy books lack that power. You could argue that 1984 is fantasy, but really it is a massive mirror of totalitarian society. I am unlikely to ever come across a talking tree.

So you haven't read the books, have no interest in the books or series as a genre, yet joined in a discussion about it? Slow day at Saddoboxing.

Nope, the title makes me afraid to read. My last post was about great writers and my belief that anything involving goblins and such is seldom the terrain of great writers. Fantasy is fun for oddball kids. Mind you, I am Gandalf, so should probably bugger off to a cave and write an autobiography or something. I'm sure some dude in eyeliner will love it.

You're such a Gradgrind.

I know, and I said sorry. I mean it.

As a point of context "Gradgrind" was my word of the day and I had to use it. It kind of applied to this conversation on a few levels. Thanks for the help bro!

[Gandalf]

For me Dostoevsky, Dickens, Orwell and Burroughs are great writers. People who write about dwarves tend not to be great writers. They can concoct fun stories, but I don't regard them as great. That is why Lord of the Rings is great fun for kids. They are fun adventure books, but little more. The aforementioned writers define humanity with its highs and it's lows and offer vivid reflections of society at large. Fantasy books lack that power. You could argue that 1984 is fantasy, but really it is a massive mirror of totalitarian society. I am unlikely to ever come across a talking tree.

So you haven't read the books, have no interest in the books or series as a genre, yet joined in a discussion about it? Slow day at Saddoboxing.

Nope, the title makes me afraid to read. My last post was about great writers and my belief that anything involving goblins and such is seldom the terrain of great writers. Fantasy is fun for oddball kids. Mind you, I am Gandalf, so should probably bugger off to a cave and write an autobiography or something. I'm sure some dude in eyeliner will love it.

You're such a Gradgrind.

I know, and I said sorry. I mean it.

As a point of context "Gradgrind" was my word of the day and I had to use it. It kind of applied to this conversation on a few levels. Thanks for the help bro!

You are too intellectual for an decadent old dead fool such as myself. I am glad I was of help.

[killersheep]

For me Dostoevsky, Dickens, Orwell and Burroughs are great writers. People who write about dwarves tend not to be great writers. They can concoct fun stories, but I don't regard them as great. That is why Lord of the Rings is great fun for kids. They are fun adventure books, but little more. The aforementioned writers define humanity with its highs and it's lows and offer vivid reflections of society at large. Fantasy books lack that power. You could argue that 1984 is fantasy, but really it is a massive mirror of totalitarian society. I am unlikely to ever come across a talking tree.

So you haven't read the books, have no interest in the books or series as a genre, yet joined in a discussion about it? Slow day at Saddoboxing.

Nope, the title makes me afraid to read. My last post was about great writers and my belief that anything involving goblins and such is seldom the terrain of great writers. Fantasy is fun for oddball kids. Mind you, I am Gandalf, so should probably bugger off to a cave and write an autobiography or something. I'm sure some dude in eyeliner will love it.

You're such a Gradgrind.

I know, and I said sorry. I mean it.

As a point of context "Gradgrind" was my word of the day and I had to use it. It kind of applied to this conversation on a few levels. Thanks for the help bro!

You are too intellectual for an decadent old dead fool such as myself. I am glad I was of help.

Oh come now, I know I'm the village idiot. No illusions about that.

[Gandalf]

For me Dostoevsky, Dickens, Orwell and Burroughs are great writers. People who write about dwarves tend not to be great writers. They can concoct fun stories, but I don't regard them as great. That is why Lord of the Rings is great fun for kids. They are fun adventure books, but little more. The aforementioned writers define humanity with its highs and it's lows and offer vivid reflections of society at large. Fantasy books lack that power. You could argue that 1984 is fantasy, but really it is a massive mirror of totalitarian society. I am unlikely to ever come across a talking tree.

So you haven't read the books, have no interest in the books or series as a genre, yet joined in a discussion about it? Slow day at Saddoboxing.

Nope, the title makes me afraid to read. My last post was about great writers and my belief that anything involving goblins and such is seldom the terrain of great writers. Fantasy is fun for oddball kids. Mind you, I am Gandalf, so should probably bugger off to a cave and write an autobiography or something. I'm sure some dude in eyeliner will love it.

You're such a Gradgrind.

I know, and I said sorry. I mean it.

As a point of context "Gradgrind" was my word of the day and I had to use it. It kind of applied to this conversation on a few levels. Thanks for the help bro!

You are too intellectual for an decadent old dead fool such as myself. I am glad I was of help.

Oh come now, I know I'm the village idiot. No illusions about that.

I would rather be the village idiot than me. He has an easy life.

[OumaFan]

the fifth book certainly lagged in the middle but overall I thought it was better than Crows. I liked both books but more in the sense of comparing them to other books. They don't stand up as well compared to the first three.

There are certain things that annoyed me about the fifth but it would be extremely spoiler-ish to discuss it. I could start another thread for readers only but really that would be geek overload. Its not as bad as talking about Lost (but what about the polar bear?), but its a bit much.

[El Kabong]

....which page is the naked blonde girl on

[CFH]

the fifth book certainly lagged in the middle but overall I thought it was better than Crows. I liked both books but more in the sense of comparing them to other books. They don't stand up as well compared to the first three.

There are certain things that annoyed me about the fifth but it would be extremely spoiler-ish to discuss it. I could start another thread for readers only but really that would be geek overload. Its not as bad as talking about Lost (but what about the polar bear?), but its a bit much.

I'm about 150 pages into the 5th book. It's better than Crows, but it still hasn't grabbed me like book 1-3. I just think the story has become too bloated, fragmented, and disconnect. Martin has lost control.

Also, knowing the fat old bastard is going to die before it ever gets finished may also have helped kill my enthusiasm.