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    Default Re: Donairre SD Vasquez

    2nd fight in a row where he looked ordinary, last time out he blamed Narvaez for running away, what a load of crap. He was there, he was in the ring, Donaire was frustrated and lacked any plan B against a fighter with an unusual style. Donaire is not the same fighter that KO'd Vic a few years back or Montiel just 12 months ago. This time around he was flat, almost disinterested. Maybe Arce has a better chance than a lot of people think? He wants to stay well clear of Mares too if he wishes to sleep walk through his fights. Donaire is on the way down! He will lose his next fight!

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    Default Re: Donairre SD Vasquez

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    2nd fight in a row where he looked ordinary, last time out he blamed Narvaez for running away, what a load of crap. He was there, he was in the ring, Donaire was frustrated and lacked any plan B against a fighter with an unusual style. Donaire is not the same fighter that KO'd Vic a few years back or Montiel just 12 months ago. This time around he was flat, almost disinterested. Maybe Arce has a better chance than a lot of people think? He wants to stay well clear of Mares too if he wishes to sleep walk through his fights. Donaire is on the way down! He will lose his next fight!
    I think Moreno would have his number if they fought...

    I still feel Donaire should have stayed at 118 for fights with Mares & Moreno, he would have gained a hell of a lot more respect for fighting either one of those guys than both his fights with Narvaez & Vasquez put together
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    Default Re: Donairre SD Vasquez

    Get him a fighter who constantly let go of his right hand, and we'll see what happens.

    Hmm... lt's seems his last two opponents were right hand shy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    2nd fight in a row where he looked ordinary, last time out he blamed Narvaez for running away, what a load of crap. He was there, he was in the ring, Donaire was frustrated and lacked any plan B against a fighter with an unusual style. Donaire is not the same fighter that KO'd Vic a few years back or Montiel just 12 months ago. This time around he was flat, almost disinterested. Maybe Arce has a better chance than a lot of people think? He wants to stay well clear of Mares too if he wishes to sleep walk through his fights. Donaire is on the way down! He will lose his next fight!
    I think Moreno would have his number if they fought...

    I still feel Donaire should have stayed at 118 for fights with Mares & Moreno, he would have gained a hell of a lot more respect for fighting either one of those guys than both his fights with Narvaez & Vasquez put together
    He doesn't like the prospect of Mares at all, not sure where he is going with his career. His ego appears to be out of control, i doubt he even beats Vic again? Donaire is in trouble. He ain't Manny Pacquaio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
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    2nd fight in a row where he looked ordinary, last time out he blamed Narvaez for running away, what a load of crap. He was there, he was in the ring, Donaire was frustrated and lacked any plan B against a fighter with an unusual style. Donaire is not the same fighter that KO'd Vic a few years back or Montiel just 12 months ago. This time around he was flat, almost disinterested. Maybe Arce has a better chance than a lot of people think? He wants to stay well clear of Mares too if he wishes to sleep walk through his fights. Donaire is on the way down! He will lose his next fight!
    I think Moreno would have his number if they fought...

    I still feel Donaire should have stayed at 118 for fights with Mares & Moreno, he would have gained a hell of a lot more respect for fighting either one of those guys than both his fights with Narvaez & Vasquez put together
    He doesn't like the prospect of Mares at all, not sure where he is going with his career. His ego appears to be out of control, i doubt he even beats Vic again? Donaire is in trouble. He ain't Manny Pacquaio.
    Nah, Vic is totally shot a this point. I think Donaire destroys Mares, whom I find totally unimpressive. Moreno would have been a competitive fight though. I do agree that Donaire needs to get his ego in check. It sounded like it was getting there after the fight though, at least, acknowledging that it would be much harder to take guys out at 122 than it had been at 115 and (to a lesser extent) 118.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
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    2nd fight in a row where he looked ordinary, last time out he blamed Narvaez for running away, what a load of crap. He was there, he was in the ring, Donaire was frustrated and lacked any plan B against a fighter with an unusual style. Donaire is not the same fighter that KO'd Vic a few years back or Montiel just 12 months ago. This time around he was flat, almost disinterested. Maybe Arce has a better chance than a lot of people think? He wants to stay well clear of Mares too if he wishes to sleep walk through his fights. Donaire is on the way down! He will lose his next fight!
    I think Moreno would have his number if they fought...

    I still feel Donaire should have stayed at 118 for fights with Mares & Moreno, he would have gained a hell of a lot more respect for fighting either one of those guys than both his fights with Narvaez & Vasquez put together
    He doesn't like the prospect of Mares at all, not sure where he is going with his career. His ego appears to be out of control, i doubt he even beats Vic again? Donaire is in trouble. He ain't Manny Pacquaio.
    Nah, Vic is totally shot a this point. I think Donaire destroys Mares, whom I find totally unimpressive. Moreno would have been a competitive fight though. I do agree that Donaire needs to get his ego in check. It sounded like it was getting there after the fight though, at least, acknowledging that it would be much harder to take guys out at 122 than it had been at 115 and (to a lesser extent) 118.
    Yes, Vic is shot, but the way Donaire is fighting he is going to lose to one of these lesser known fighters sooner rather than later. Donaire is not destroying anyone at 122lb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
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    2nd fight in a row where he looked ordinary, last time out he blamed Narvaez for running away, what a load of crap. He was there, he was in the ring, Donaire was frustrated and lacked any plan B against a fighter with an unusual style. Donaire is not the same fighter that KO'd Vic a few years back or Montiel just 12 months ago. This time around he was flat, almost disinterested. Maybe Arce has a better chance than a lot of people think? He wants to stay well clear of Mares too if he wishes to sleep walk through his fights. Donaire is on the way down! He will lose his next fight!
    I think Moreno would have his number if they fought...

    I still feel Donaire should have stayed at 118 for fights with Mares & Moreno, he would have gained a hell of a lot more respect for fighting either one of those guys than both his fights with Narvaez & Vasquez put together
    He doesn't like the prospect of Mares at all, not sure where he is going with his career. His ego appears to be out of control, i doubt he even beats Vic again? Donaire is in trouble. He ain't Manny Pacquaio.
    Nah, Vic is totally shot a this point. I think Donaire destroys Mares, whom I find totally unimpressive. Moreno would have been a competitive fight though. I do agree that Donaire needs to get his ego in check. It sounded like it was getting there after the fight though, at least, acknowledging that it would be much harder to take guys out at 122 than it had been at 115 and (to a lesser extent) 118.
    Yes, Vic is shot, but the way Donaire is fighting he is going to lose to one of these lesser known fighters sooner rather than later. Donaire is not destroying anyone at 122lb.
    He'll destroy Arce. You mark my word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    He'll destroy Arce. You mark my word.
    Maybe so, but prior to this fight, I didn't think it was worth Donaire's time to face Arce. Because of two relatively lackluster fights in a row, it's now not a horrible idea for Donaire. For his popularity sake, he may need an explosive KO win.

    Let's not get too down on Donaire. He did get the W, just not explosively.

    All talk of him going up to 126 to face Gamboa should stop because his power hasn't translated at 122 at least so far. He may need time to grow into 122. Nishioka is the fight for Donaire.

    Does anyone now think Rigondeaux may beat him if they fight?

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    l'd say bring all the 122 top dogs one by one against him first, then decide if he's worthy at 126. He obviously still have chin and power at 122. Him and Garcia needs to work on his right hand though cuz the left hand kept getting banged up.

    Both Nishioka and Rigondeaux are southpaw. They're tailor made for Nonito. l think that's the main reason he moved up to 122.

    ...oh yeah. He want's Arce too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    l'd say bring all the 122 top dogs one by one against him first, then decide if he's worthy at 126. He obviously still have chin and power at 122. Him and Garcia needs to work on his right hand though cuz the left hand kept getting banged up.

    Both Nishioka and Rigondeaux are southpaw. They're tailor made for Nonito. l think that's the main reason he moved up to 122.

    ...oh yeah. He want's Arce too.
    Just because Nonito KOed Vic doesn't mean he has every southpaw's number. I agree with Gest in that these fighters are not giving him an arsenal of punches. Most are trying to outbox him and catch him when he's open. Navarez was looking to drag him into later rounds and see if he was weight drained. He worked the body and stood in there very well. He was not at risk of losing his titles, and for him it was a BIG payday.

    Nonito is not the Fire and brimstone he would like to be, but with his speed and timing he can really make a mark. Against definitively minded fighters he is always going to struggle. He is gaining a lot of experience, and as long as he doesn't get busted up in these fights, doesn't drain himself to make weight, we will see the best of him to come.

    Even at 122 pounds, Donaire is a giant in the ring with dwarfs.

    imho: Rigo will give Donaire fits with his tight defense, and hard punches from medium range. I think Rigo will have to work for this win because Nonito will be eating too many shots trying to walk him down.
    I am a big fan of Rigo's style though, so I may be a little bias
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    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    l'd say bring all the 122 top dogs one by one against him first, then decide if he's worthy at 126. He obviously still have chin and power at 122. Him and Garcia needs to work on his right hand though cuz the left hand kept getting banged up.

    Both Nishioka and Rigondeaux are southpaw. They're tailor made for Nonito. l think that's the main reason he moved up to 122.

    ...oh yeah. He want's Arce too.
    sorry buddy but after two weak showing IMO Nishioka and Rigondeaux should both be the favorites heading into a bout against Donaire, and Vazquez threw the right hand plenty, it's the hand that would stop Donaire from coming forward and the same shot that buckled Donaire when Vazquez was in the corner, Nonito has a good left hook but he's far from being Frazier to think that he's gonna KO somebody every time they let the right hand go, anywho he shouldn't even be looking at 126, seeing how IMO Mares, Agbeko, Moreno, Arce, Nishioka, Rigondeaux, and even Vazquez in a rematch give Nonito all he can handle, he didn't have any crazy power on Saturday in fact Arce did more damage to Vazquez so lets see how he continues now that his main asset (his size) is gone

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