Demetrius Andrade vs. Angel Hernandez - FNF thread - Feb. 10th

[killersheep]

Somebody needs to be fired at ESPN.

Everyone should be fired at ESPN....bar Michelle Beadle grrrrr baby!

Why all the hate on Andrade and Wilder? They are raw (at least Wilder is) and need experience. Wilder should be moving up a little this year, but he's got to fill out a little to be a quality heavyweight.

If they are not challenged then why feature them on tv?

I don't sign the fights for ESPN bro...I don't know

The hate on Andrade and to a smaller extent Wilder are justified. They are fighting WAY below their level. Doing that makes them nothing but soft.

[El Kabong]

Wilder has to fill out man, he's too damn skinny. He's got to grow into his frame. Also Wilder is still raw as fuck....he'll be good, but he has to get rounds in.

[Spicoli]

Gotta say to me, Abril is a step above Serrano in some spots here, save for the turning. Serrano is a sucker down the middle.

No hate for Andrade or Wilder but, they could put a hand held cam in the gym and feature them beating up heavy bags too. All kidding aside, Hernandez is a pretty suitable 'sub'.

[killersheep]

Wilder has to fill out man, he's too damn skinny. He's got to grow into his frame. Also Wilder is still raw as fuck....he'll be good, but he has to get rounds in.

Going in against guys that collapse after two shots will not make him any less "raw as fuck". It's worthless experience that promotes falling into bad habits.

[killersheep]

Man this fight would be a classic if Abril didn't spoil so much, skill wise it's really close.

[El Kabong]

Wilder has to fill out man, he's too damn skinny. He's got to grow into his frame. Also Wilder is still raw as fuck....he'll be good, but he has to get rounds in.

Going in against guys that collapse after two shots will not make him any less "raw as fuck". It's worthless experience that promotes falling into bad habits.

He does lift his right back when he throws it. It goes out straight and when it comes back, it's up too high and not coming back straight to defend. I think Wilder will still be a "somebody" in the division by the end of this year.


Fucking Serrano needs to break and then rip off combinations when Abril tries to tie up.

[killersheep]

Wilder has to fill out man, he's too damn skinny. He's got to grow into his frame. Also Wilder is still raw as fuck....he'll be good, but he has to get rounds in.

Going in against guys that collapse after two shots will not make him any less "raw as fuck". It's worthless experience that promotes falling into bad habits.

He does lift his right back when he throws it. It goes out straight and when it comes back, it's up too high and not coming back straight to defend. I think Wilder will still be a "somebody" in the division by the end of this year.


Fucking Serrano needs to break and then rip off combinations when Abril tries to tie up.

You have to BEAT somebody to BE somebody.

I agree with Serrano sentiment.

[Spicoli]

Wilder has to fill out man, he's too damn skinny. He's got to grow into his frame. Also Wilder is still raw as fuck....he'll be good, but he has to get rounds in.

He's 26years old. By the time he starts having to pay for mistakes in the ring he could very well be set in his ways and its not going to get any easier to mature. Wizz or get off the pot

[Mars_ax]

"Tito" Serrano wins a UD.

[Diane]

I don't know how Dave Diamante thinks that the do he's sporting looks good.

[Diane]

That manbaby commercial is so fucking stupid.

All those commercials are stupid, not just the manbaby.

That manbaby actually reminds me of Josh (CFH).

[El Kabong]

Wilder has to fill out man, he's too damn skinny. He's got to grow into his frame. Also Wilder is still raw as fuck....he'll be good, but he has to get rounds in.

He's 26years old. By the time he starts having to pay for mistakes in the ring he could very well be set in his ways and its not going to get any easier to mature. Wizz or get off the pot

As a HEAVYWEIGHT he can afford to take his time. Why rush to be the best, he's got 0 shot of beating Wlad or Vitali...slow and steady is right for Wilder. Wilder does need rounds, and he does need to step up his competition, but like I said he can afford to be slower in becoming a true contender.

[killersheep]

Wilder has to fill out man, he's too damn skinny. He's got to grow into his frame. Also Wilder is still raw as fuck....he'll be good, but he has to get rounds in.

He's 26years old. By the time he starts having to pay for mistakes in the ring he could very well be set in his ways and its not going to get any easier to mature. Wizz or get off the pot

When Jhonny Gonzalez was 26 he had already fought Israel Vazquez, Irene Pacheco, Fernando Montiel, Mark Johnson, Gabriel Elizando and Gerry Penalosa. He had also won the WBO Bantamweight title. He had no amatuer experience other than messing around with his friends. That's what the heart of a champion is to me, he fights whomever the best competition is, he wins some, loses some, but always comes back.

When I put that into context against Wilder and Andrade, well maybe they shouldn't be pro if they are still learning. If they are going to be pro then make worthwhile fights.

[El Kabong]

Anyone think Cotto could handle JC Jr?

[El Kabong]

....Wow, I'm sorry, I would LOVE to see JC Jr. Vs Abraham!!!