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    Default Re: 40 year old v's a 21 year old =

    I will be supporting the 40 year old, beat that little puppy.
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    So, they couldn't even get a live body, huh? This is a sad fight. Shane is 100% shot. Don't kid yourselves. It's Cintron all over again. They're coddling Canelo. How did Shane deserve this fight after his poor showing against Pacquiao? Do you remember booing that fight? That was at 147 and now Shane is older. Even if Shane isn't shot, which he is, he isn't a top ten junior middleweight like Alvarez and like Delvin.

    Booo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    So, they couldn't even get a live body, huh? This is a sad fight. Shane is 100% shot. Don't kid yourselves. It's Cintron all over again. They're coddling Canelo. How did Shane deserve this fight after his poor showing against Pacquiao? Do you remember booing that fight? That was at 147 and now Shane is older. Even if Shane isn't shot, which he is, he isn't a top ten junior middleweight like Alvarez and like Delvin.

    Booo.
    Well technically this fight being at 154 will be more helpful for Shane than struggling to make 147.

    Plus losing two wide UD's to unquestionably the two best fighters on the planet doesn't mean he's going to lose to everyone else. Few fighters have given more to boxing in terms of heart and commitment than Shane Mosley down the years.

    I can't believe the hostility he gets just because he was no longer good enough to hang with the p4p number 1 & 2 fighters.

    It's an interesting matchup.

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    Shane had a pretty bad injury going into the Pacquiao fight as he was recovering from a torn ACL which caused him to compensate on the other leg which caused a worse blister to pop which he could barely stand on, which is why he was contimplating stopping the fight with Richardson. It really is a wonder he was able to stand all 12 rounds let alone use his legs. After that he hinted at retiring on Lopez Tonight.

    So if Shane comes into this fight at 100 percent he should do better than people think he will but at this point if he hasn't blasted out Alvarez early it will be a long night decision win for Canelo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    So, they couldn't even get a live body, huh? This is a sad fight. Shane is 100% shot. Don't kid yourselves. It's Cintron all over again. They're coddling Canelo. How did Shane deserve this fight after his poor showing against Pacquiao? Do you remember booing that fight? That was at 147 and now Shane is older. Even if Shane isn't shot, which he is, he isn't a top ten junior middleweight like Alvarez and like Delvin.

    Booo.
    Well technically this fight being at 154 will be more helpful for Shane than struggling to make 147.

    Plus losing two wide UD's to unquestionably the two best fighters on the planet doesn't mean he's going to lose to everyone else. Few fighters have given more to boxing in terms of heart and commitment than Shane Mosley down the years.

    I can't believe the hostility he gets just because he was no longer good enough to hang with the p4p number 1 & 2 fighters.

    It's an interesting matchup.
    +1 exactly.

    This fight asks questions of both fighters and that makes it an interesting one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    So, they couldn't even get a live body, huh? This is a sad fight. Shane is 100% shot. Don't kid yourselves. It's Cintron all over again. They're coddling Canelo. How did Shane deserve this fight after his poor showing against Pacquiao? Do you remember booing that fight? That was at 147 and now Shane is older. Even if Shane isn't shot, which he is, he isn't a top ten junior middleweight like Alvarez and like Delvin.

    Booo.
    Well technically this fight being at 154 will be more helpful for Shane than struggling to make 147.

    Plus losing two wide UD's to unquestionably the two best fighters on the planet doesn't mean he's going to lose to everyone else. Few fighters have given more to boxing in terms of heart and commitment than Shane Mosley down the years.

    I can't believe the hostility he gets just because he was no longer good enough to hang with the p4p number 1 & 2 fighters.

    It's an interesting matchup.
    No one is doubting Shane's career, but he is shot, man. Just watch his last three performances. I understand losing to Floyd and Manny doesn't mean he will lose to everyone else, but that also doesn't mean he isn't shot. More importantly, there were MUCH better opponents at 154. MUCH. This will be the second shot fighter that Canelo has faced in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I will be supporting the 40 year old, beat that little puppy.
    With ya on that.

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    Think about it.

    Canelo doesn't have the best defense, and he isn't the quickest, so Shane's going to see opportunities to throw punches, and he's going to take them. Plus Canelo is going to make things a very good scrap.

    We might see another Morales vs. Maidana type fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuthaPug View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I will be supporting the 40 year old, beat that little puppy.
    With ya on that.
    Us 40 year old must tick together, little youngsters are starting to take over the sport and leaving us behind.
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    Michael Woods, the boxing writer for the New York Post, said this about the Shane Mosley versus Canelo Alvarez fight: "Ideally, the bulk of our interest in a fight shouldn't stem from curiousity if boxer is shot or not." It's 100% on point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Michael Woods, the boxing writer for the New York Post, said this about the Shane Mosley versus Canelo Alvarez fight: "Ideally, the bulk of our interest in a fight shouldn't stem from curiousity if boxer is shot or not." It's 100% on point.

    I don't know. Shane did no worse against Floyd than J M Marquez did, and he did no worse against Manny than Cotto did.

    Both of those guys are still considered top fighters, in fact Floyd is fighting Cotto next and many think Marquez beat Pacquiao last time out.

    Canelo wasn't able to stop Matthew Hatton I think Mosley is an ideal opponent for him at this stage.

    Remember the goal is to give Canelo a decent test, but for him to not lose. They aren't about to pair him with anyone they think will beat him just yet. As Shane was considered an elite fighter only a couple of years ago and on his best day would probably stomp all over the current version of Canelo I think this fight has plenty of interest.

    I'm much more looking forward to this fight for Alvarez than I was his fights against Hatton, Rhodes, Gomez and Cintron and I expect most other people are too.

    It's a step up for him and as an undercard fight pretty intriguing.

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    ^^ Agreed. If Mosley keeps going this is the only kind of matchup you could expect, I kind of like it. The idea that this is coddling Alvarez is quite laughable given who he has fought thus far, I think if Mosley is able to muster up any kind of a last ditch effort this will be a hell of a fight. Alvarez would've been roadkill for Shane Mosley in the day and he may well not have the composure to put Shane into a shell like Floyd and Manny were able to do. Mosley can still be very dangerous in spurts if you want to fight with him I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Michael Woods, the boxing writer for the New York Post, said this about the Shane Mosley versus Canelo Alvarez fight: "Ideally, the bulk of our interest in a fight shouldn't stem from curiousity if boxer is shot or not." It's 100% on point.

    I don't know. Shane did no worse against Floyd than J M Marquez did, and he did no worse against Manny than Cotto did.

    Both of those guys are still considered top fighters, in fact Floyd is fighting Cotto next and many think Marquez beat Pacquiao last time out.

    Canelo wasn't able to stop Matthew Hatton I think Mosley is an ideal opponent for him at this stage.

    Remember the goal is to give Canelo a decent test, but for him to not lose. They aren't about to pair him with anyone they think will beat him just yet. As Shane was considered an elite fighter only a couple of years ago and on his best day would probably stomp all over the current version of Canelo I think this fight has plenty of interest.

    I'm much more looking forward to this fight for Alvarez than I was his fights against Hatton, Rhodes, Gomez and Cintron and I expect most other people are too.

    It's a step up for him and as an undercard fight pretty intriguing.
    I heard a very funny line somewhere about this card. It went something like Floyd must have been required to do community service for senior citizens as part of his plea deal for beating his baby's momma and that is why Shane and Winky are on the card.

    Anyway, you may be correct, perhaps I've been too harsh on this fight. Given Canelo's previous opposition, this is more of the same, but not any worse. It turned out Cintron was shot when he faced Canelo and I see the same thing happening here. Also, after Mosley's last two performances, I didn't want to see him on a major card again because I thought he stunk out the joint. Additionally, I would view a win over Delvin Rodriguez as a better win than one over this version of Shane and also better for Canelo's development, and he's not the only choice out there. I understand why they wouldn't want to put him in with James Kirkland. Fine. I wouldn't even hold it against Canelo. He's 21. I just think there are better choices out there from every perspective.

    There's a chance that Shane is just more effective at 154 than he was at 147 at his age and he'll bring some pain to Canelo. I'll be rooting for Shane to win too.

    Do you not remember Oscar trashing Shane before the Pacquiao fight? He was calling him shot and over the hill etc. Now Oscar goes and puts him in with his cash cow. It's just a reminder that promoters are promoters. One's no different from the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Michael Woods, the boxing writer for the New York Post, said this about the Shane Mosley versus Canelo Alvarez fight: "Ideally, the bulk of our interest in a fight shouldn't stem from curiousity if boxer is shot or not." It's 100% on point.

    I don't know. Shane did no worse against Floyd than J M Marquez did, and he did no worse against Manny than Cotto did.

    Both of those guys are still considered top fighters, in fact Floyd is fighting Cotto next and many think Marquez beat Pacquiao last time out.

    Canelo wasn't able to stop Matthew Hatton I think Mosley is an ideal opponent for him at this stage.

    Remember the goal is to give Canelo a decent test, but for him to not lose. They aren't about to pair him with anyone they think will beat him just yet. As Shane was considered an elite fighter only a couple of years ago and on his best day would probably stomp all over the current version of Canelo I think this fight has plenty of interest.

    I'm much more looking forward to this fight for Alvarez than I was his fights against Hatton, Rhodes, Gomez and Cintron and I expect most other people are too.

    It's a step up for him and as an undercard fight pretty intriguing.
    I heard a very funny line somewhere about this card. It went something like Floyd must have been required to do community service for senior citizens as part of his plea deal for beating his baby's momma and that is why Shane and Winky are on the card.

    Anyway, you may be correct, perhaps I've been too harsh on this fight. Given Canelo's previous opposition, this is more of the same, but not any worse. It turned out Cintron was shot when he faced Canelo and I see the same thing happening here. Also, after Mosley's last two performances, I didn't want to see him on a major card again because I thought he stunk out the joint. Additionally, I would view a win over Delvin Rodriguez as a better win than one over this version of Shane and also better for Canelo's development, and he's not the only choice out there. I understand why they wouldn't want to put him in with James Kirkland. Fine. I wouldn't even hold it against Canelo. He's 21. I just think there are better choices out there from every perspective.

    There's a chance that Shane is just more effective at 154 than he was at 147 at his age and he'll bring some pain to Canelo. I'll be rooting for Shane to win too.

    Do you not remember Oscar trashing Shane before the Pacquiao fight? He was calling him shot and over the hill etc. Now Oscar goes and puts him in with his cash cow. It's just a reminder that promoters are promoters. One's no different from the rest.
    It's totally different though. In the former fight Shane was fighting the then best p4p fighter in the entire world. Now he's facing a 21 year old belt holder whose only notable win is against Kermit Cintron and it's an undercard fight.

    If they were hyping this as a main event fight on a HBO card then sure, but as a chief support it's pretty intriguing.

    Also I highly doubt the casual fan would rather see Canelo fight Delvin Rodriguez. I also think it's a matter of conjecture as to whether that is a tougher fight.

    Shane was once world elite, only a couple fights ago he was fighting at the very top level, now he's a decent gatekeeper test.

    Remember this is a fight Canelo is supposed to win, nobody is saying this is a 50/50 fight and it's not being hyped as such. For me the main event is a bigger farce seeing how comprehensively Manny dismantled Cotto not that long ago.

    Still it's a card I will definitely be watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Michael Woods, the boxing writer for the New York Post, said this about the Shane Mosley versus Canelo Alvarez fight: "Ideally, the bulk of our interest in a fight shouldn't stem from curiousity if boxer is shot or not." It's 100% on point.
    .
    Also, after Mosley's last two performances, I didn't want to see him on a major card again because I thought he stunk out the joint. .
    This ^^ Pacquiao vs Mosely was the last time i was waking up at 4 in the morning for a mosely fight.

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