Prime Hatton VS Maidana

[Master]

Ortiz would have been a much tougher fight for Hatton than Maidana. He has a ton of power, he can box a little bit, and he's a southpaw. He was also a very big 140 lb'er.

I can easily envision Ortiz stopping Hatton.

Maidana beat Ortiz at this weight.

That means very little. It's all about styles. Hatton would be able to avoid or at least see Maidana's slow, looping punches. Ortiz has perhaps more power and much better technique. He's also a southpaw.

I also think Ortiz would starch Khan (and have said so even after Ortiz lost to Maidana) and he also beat Maidana.

Khan will smash Ortiz if they meet at welter, remember it is all about styles.

[Althugz]

Ortiz would have been a much tougher fight for Hatton than Maidana. He has a ton of power, he can box a little bit, and he's a southpaw. He was also a very big 140 lb'er.

I can easily envision Ortiz stopping Hatton.

Maidana beat Ortiz at this weight.

That means very little. It's all about styles. Hatton would be able to avoid or at least see Maidana's slow, looping punches. Ortiz has perhaps more power and much better technique. He's also a southpaw.

I also think Ortiz would starch Khan (and have said so even after Ortiz lost to Maidana) and he also beat Maidana.

Yup, I co-sign that. Ortiz starches both fighters for me. He's a complete tit but I think he learned from that Maidana fight and post-maidna Ortiz whacks both Khan and Hatton

[Althugz]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

[fightscorecollector]

hatton is too fast with his punches , his feet and workrate...maidana gets kayoed with bodyshot in 8

[Dia bando]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

Beanz don't waste your time with this guy, he's just baiting you as he doe's with most people classic empty vessel making a lot of noise.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Would maidana had have beaten tzu?

Yea, if he had fought in Argentina with the referee in his pocket just as Hatton did.
Sure, Maidana could have beaten an over the hill Tszyu under those circumstances.

[Beanz]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

It's "What you have written within your quotation marks"......you complete tool.

[Althugz]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

It's "What you have written within your quotation marks"......you complete tool.

..and with a second post irrelevant to the debate you have accepted defeat. Well done little boy.

[Beanz]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

It's "What you have written within your quotation marks"......you complete tool.

..and with a second post irrelevant to the debate you have accepted defeat. Well done little boy.

1.Respect your elders
2.Do you refer to everyone you meet in England as "you lot"? If so it would explain a lot
3. With the gheyest name on here and certainly the most laughable
Avatar pic you probably shouldn't be feigning maturity.
4. The threads OP concerned Madiana and Hatton, not what average run of the mill fighter could beat him.
5. You are an irrelevance.
6. Are you still here?
7.What is your problem with British people being patriotic?
8. Are there any British fighters you respect? Or is it only boxers from the great Pantheon of Turkish greats?
9.What are you going to be when you grow up?
10.I give up and defer to your greater boxing knowledge as demonstrated by your ridiculous assertions.

[Althugz]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

It's "What you have written within your quotation marks"......you complete tool.

..and with a second post irrelevant to the debate you have accepted defeat. Well done little boy.

1.Respect your elders
2.Do you refer to everyone you meet in England as "you lot"? If so it would explain a lot
3. With the gheyest name on here and certainly the most laughable
Avatar pic you probably shouldn't be feigning maturity.
4. The threads OP concerned Madiana and Hatton, not what average run of the mill fighter could beat him.
5. You are an irrelevance.
6. Are you still here?
7.What is your problem with British people being patriotic?
8. Are their any British fighters you respect? Or is it only boxers from the great Pantheon of Turkish greats?
9.What are you going to be when you grow up?
10.I give up and defer to your greater boxing knowledge as demonstrated by your ridiculous assertions.

Fell asleep at 1. Woke up again at 10 to see if you had anything of substance to say..you didn't.

P.S There's a lesson here kids. Do not try and point out someones grammatical errors when you don't even know the difference between there/their/they're. *face in palm*

[Beanz]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

It's "What you have written within your quotation marks"......you complete tool.

..and with a second post irrelevant to the debate you have accepted defeat. Well done little boy.

1.Respect your elders
2.Do you refer to everyone you meet in England as "you lot"? If so it would explain a lot
3. With the gheyest name on here and certainly the most laughable
Avatar pic you probably shouldn't be feigning maturity.
4. The threads OP concerned Madiana and Hatton, not what average run of the mill fighter could beat him.
5. You are an irrelevance.
6. Are you still here?
7.What is your problem with British people being patriotic?
8. Are their any British fighters you respect? Or is it only boxers from the great Pantheon of Turkish greats?
9.What are you going to be when you grow up?
10.I give up and defer to your greater boxing knowledge as demonstrated by your ridiculous assertions.

Fell asleep at 1. Woke up again at 10 to see if you had anything of substance to say..you didn't.

P.S There's a lesson here kids. Do not try and point out someones grammatical errors when you don't even know the difference between there/their/they're. *face in palm*

It's called predictive text, and thanks for making me your first thought on waking. A little creepy but hey, thanks anyway I guess.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

Ortiz would have been a much tougher fight for Hatton than Maidana. He has a ton of power, he can box a little bit, and he's a southpaw. He was also a very big 140 lb'er.

I can easily envision Ortiz stopping Hatton.

Ortiz doesn't have the heart. Maidana and Floyd proved this.

[porkypara]

I think Hatton in a good but 1 sided fight.

Maidana is an exciting fighter but very overrated.

[Althugz]

To flip the script a little bit..Does Hatton beat Ortiz? I say no. Ortiz's speed and power would have had Hatton out of there imo

How is that flipping the script, that is just the same old predictable, "let's all have a go a great British fighter who did more for British Boxing in his career than most, now that he has no way of proving me wrong". Ortiz? Tailor made for Ricky. Hatton's footwork alone would tie him in knots. Hatton had a ton of heart and was more than capable of stopping far greater fighters than Ortiz.

What you crying and getting emotional for? Relax yourself. What you wrote within your quote marks makes you look like a complete fool. So somebody can ask if Maidana beats Tsyu but I "flip the script" and ask if Hatton beats Ortiz and am an automatic "brit hater"? Haha you lot get so butthurt about Brits not being blind patriots it's unbelievable. They're both common opponents - hence my question is completely relevant and food for thought.

Stop being a bitch

It's "What you have written within your quotation marks"......you complete tool.

..and with a second post irrelevant to the debate you have accepted defeat. Well done little boy.

1.Respect your elders
2.Do you refer to everyone you meet in England as "you lot"? If so it would explain a lot
3. With the gheyest name on here and certainly the most laughable
Avatar pic you probably shouldn't be feigning maturity.
4. The threads OP concerned Madiana and Hatton, not what average run of the mill fighter could beat him.
5. You are an irrelevance.
6. Are you still here?
7.What is your problem with British people being patriotic?
8. Are their any British fighters you respect? Or is it only boxers from the great Pantheon of Turkish greats?
9.What are you going to be when you grow up?
10.I give up and defer to your greater boxing knowledge as demonstrated by your ridiculous assertions.

Fell asleep at 1. Woke up again at 10 to see if you had anything of substance to say..you didn't.

P.S There's a lesson here kids. Do not try and point out someones grammatical errors when you don't even know the difference between there/their/they're. *face in palm*

It's called predictive text, and thanks for making me your first thought on waking. A little creepy but hey, thanks anyway I guess.

I meant I fell asleep at number 1 on your list..not 1am. For someone who is trying to throw insults at people that make it seem like you're more intelligent than them, you're struggling a little aren't you?

Can we get back to boxing talk? Seeing as you displayed all the classic signs of having lost the argument many, many posts back..(irrelevant jabs about my heritage, avatar, personal life, intelligence etc)

Let me know what day you get to remove your tampon and we may even get to have a debate without you getting too emotional on a net forum

Lot's of love and man hugs.

Back to boxing, I still think Maidana takes him. Styles make fights and nobody brought it to Ricky like Maidana would. He doesnt leave you alone. It's not a foregone conclusion, in my mind I just see Maidana grinding him down. That's my story n I'm sticking to it.

[CFH]

Ortiz would have been a much tougher fight for Hatton than Maidana. He has a ton of power, he can box a little bit, and he's a southpaw. He was also a very big 140 lb'er.

I can easily envision Ortiz stopping Hatton.

Ortiz doesn't have the heart. Maidana and Floyd proved this.

I don't think he would need heart against Hatton. I honestly believe that fight would have been over within a couple of rounds. The combination of Hatton rushing in, him being a sucker for straight lefts, and Ortiz' size and power would make it a short night in my mind.

I like Hatton and I think he was a very good fight, but I just think that Ortiz would have been all wrong for him.