Anyone still think Cloud would beat Dawson or Hopkins?

[shza]

I said before the fight that Dawson and Hopkins would both beat Cloud by wide margins. Definitely sticking by that.

He should give Campillo a rematch, obviously, but he won't. I had thought that Pascal/Cloud would be a competitive fight previously but I'm no longer sure about that. I'd definitely favor Pascal at this point. I'd favor Andre Ward over Cloud by a wide margin if he moved up as well.

Cloud/Froch might be a good fight.

[captainanddew]

hopkins is old as dirt. He could fall off a cliff overnight.

Dawson should be able to jab, straight left, and then turn Cloud all night. Cloud would have to get to Dawson in the first couple of rounds and hurt Dawson.

[Mars_ax]

Hopkins is old as dirt. He could fall off a cliff overnight.

Dawson should be able to jab, straight left, and then turn Cloud all night. Cloud would have to get to Dawson in the first couple of rounds and hurt Dawson.

Hell you say, Hop is fresh as a daisy.
Seriously, if Hopkins were 60 he'd have enough left in the tank to school a chump like Cloud.

[johnsebastianmiran]

No!

[TigerFan]

First off, he should give Campillo a rematch. If that doesn't happen, then I wouldn't mind seeing him in with Pascal or Shumenov. Sillakh also..but he's more of a high risk low reward fighter...so I doubt that happens any time soon.

And to answer the thread question - No

[Taeth]

People seem to love these one dimensional tough bangers, but again and again quality has proven superior to brute force, and both Hopkins and Dawson are of higher quality.

[Kev]

I've never seen anything special about Cloud whatsoever. Never understood what Lyle saw in him

I don't think he'd beat Jean Pascal.

[Mars_ax]

I said before the fight that Dawson and Hopkins would both beat Cloud by wide margins. Definitely sticking by that.

He should give Campillo a rematch, obviously, but he won't. I had thought that Pascal/Cloud would be a competitive fight previously but I'm no longer sure about that. I'd definitely favor Pascal at this point. I'd favor Andre Ward over Cloud by a wide margin if he moved up as well.

Cloud/Froch might be a good fight.

Cloud really underestimated Campillo's ability, and another part of the problem the 5' 10" Cloud was having, was dealing with a bigger man, the 6' 2" Campillio looked huge in there. Cloud would have almost same height disadvantage against Hop or Dawson, plus they're technically much better.

As for Cloud vs. Pascal, they'd be more evenly matched, but at this point i'd favor Pascal.