And you thought Floyd Mayweather was racist...

[Kev]

See I would defend her right to say those things though. I don't see how it is racism as she has no actual power to denigrate black people or any other race.

It's just a little rant.

I quite like her, with a feisty attitude like that I bet she's a wild lay.

I find racism laws to be ridiculous now. Denying someone the same rights as others on account of their skin colour = racism.

Slagging somebody off because they are black, yellow, ginger, fat, disabled, a cunt etc is all much of a muchness and people should just get over it.

Also her statement regarding black people only advancing through white people, although offensive to say is factually accurate. Can anyone demonstrate otherwise?

[Gandalf]

I believe in freedom of speech and the power of your own language to show you up for being what you are. Imagine if I had gone off on the Jews in such a way and then said that I didn't regret anything that I said. You would all think I am an arse and rightly so. She is a horrible human being and unfortunately I see it all too often. You only have to mention the word Africa and young Koreans will get a fit of the giggles and start making tribal noises. It is ignorant and should be called out as such which I have had to do a lot in the past. Sure you can say it, but expect people to call you an idiot and expect to have issues being in a public position such as writing songs for well known Korean pop artists.

Take a comment like: "Floyd Mayweather, your people brag about all the muscles they have except for the muscle that actually counts. #Neanderthal. F***ing idiot. You should be WORSHIPPING Asians you sub-human ungrateful APE ". It is more than a little rant, it is outright nasty and venomous and isn't a one off statement. It is one of a dozen statements and she then refuses to back down.

As a public person involved in a type of music is drawn more towards black music rather than Indie boy rock, it is more than a little bit flippant. It is horrid and she deserves a good backlash. I make the Floyd references because what he said is child's play compared to what she went and responded with.

I am all for people saying what they want, but they deserve to be called idiots if act idiotically and all I am doing is comparing her to Mayweather which really was so tame in comparison.

[Kev]

At least she didn't say she wanted Floyd Mayweather to have his teeth smashed in and left dripping with blood because he is a member of the black race which is what you said regarding Yuri Foreman.

But I guess that was different somehow right?

We all still loved you.

[Gandalf]

At least she didn't say she wanted Floyd Mayweather to have his teeth smashed in and left dripping with blood because he is a member of the black race which is what you said regarding Yuri Foreman.

But I guess that was different somehow right?

We all still loved you.

The difference was that I was drunk, but man enough to take back my words. Don't forget the context too which was right after the flotilla massacre. It wasn't in response to Floyd saying that he essentially supports black athletes above all others which is relatively trivial.

My posting history is there and with the mean is hopefully a lot more that is funny, caring and a better reflection. Nobody is perfect, but very few are racist to a Hitlerian kind of degree. Floyd certainly isn't.

I have said many times that I respect Jews as human beings, but take issue with their governance. That destroys the couple of times a got silly and said something mental.

As I say I am all for freedom of speech and allowing your own words to be the ultimate barometer by which you are judged.

[Kev]

At least she didn't say she wanted Floyd Mayweather to have his teeth smashed in and left dripping with blood because he is a member of the black race which is what you said regarding Yuri Foreman.

But I guess that was different somehow right?

We all still loved you.

The difference was that I was drunk, but man enough to take back my words. Don't forget the context too which was right after the flotilla massacre. It wasn't in response to Floyd saying that he essentially supports black athletes above all others which is relatively trivial.

My posting history is there and with the mean is hopefully a lot more that is funny, caring and a better reflection. Nobody is perfect, but very few are racist to a Hitlerian kind of degree. Floyd certainly isn't.

I have said many times that I respect Jews as human beings, but take issue with their governance. That destroys the couple of times a got silly and said something mental.

As I say I am all for freedom of speech and allowing your own words to be the ultimate barometer by which you are judged.

So you're just misunderstood like Mel Gibson and John Galliano then.

[Gandalf]

No, what I said wasn't different. It was racist and wrong.

However, I have rarely advocated mass genocide or anything of that ilk. In fact my posting shows me as being against that kind of behaviour and abuses of power in general.

I am open for people to say what they like, but wouldn't like to be thought of as a racist because I don't think I am.

I remember once criticising David Haye's grammar and having someone call me a racist for it. Sometimes I think people don't even known what racism is.

[Kev]

No, what I said wasn't different. It was racist and wrong.

However, I have rarely advocated mass genocide or anything of that ilk. In fact my posting shows me as being against that kind of behaviour and abuses of power in general.

I am open for people to say what they like, but wouldn't like to be thought of as a racist because I don't think I am.

I remember once criticising David Haye's grammar and having someone call me a racist for it. Sometimes I think people don't even known what racism is.

I don't see how it is any different. She wrote her tweets directed at Floyd because she thinks he an idiot neanderthal. I'm sure many would agree with her on that. He slagged her race, she slagged his back.

I see no harm. I am against censorship of any viewpoints. When people spout hateful things in public those remarks become both their crime and their punishment.

[Gandalf]

No, what I said wasn't different. It was racist and wrong.

However, I have rarely advocated mass genocide or anything of that ilk. In fact my posting shows me as being against that kind of behaviour and abuses of power in general.

I am open for people to say what they like, but wouldn't like to be thought of as a racist because I don't think I am.

I remember once criticising David Haye's grammar and having someone call me a racist for it. Sometimes I think people don't even known what racism is.

I don't see how it is any different. She wrote her tweets directed at Floyd because she thinks he an idiot neanderthal. I'm sure many would agree with her on that. He slagged her race, she slagged his back.

I see no harm. I am against censorship of any viewpoints. When people spout hateful things in public those remarks become both their crime and their punishment.

The difference for me is degree and that is my only point.

Floyd saying Pac is yellow, eats rice and that he supports blacks over other races is relatively harmless. Some of that is true and the other is just bias. Many do it in terms of supporting the Brit or supporting Khan because he Asian. That's fine. I eat a lot of potatoes and my wife prefers rice. It's relatively uncontroversial.

Saying that another race is superior and another is degenerate and should be worshiping another is racism taken to a whole other level though and that is something I don't feel comfortable with. It is very hateful, but I accept that it can be said.

I am against censorship too, but I do feel that one was more extreme than the other. It's nothing controversial. If anything my own posting history probably has me cast as anti white. I'm not a fan of that manifest destiny, let's invade and plunder the poor brown people nonsense.

[Andre]

See I would defend her right to say those things though. I don't see how it is racism as she has no actual power to denigrate black people or any other race.

It's just a little rant.

I quite like her, with a feisty attitude like that I bet she's a wild lay.

I find racism laws to be ridiculous now. Denying someone the same rights as others on account of their skin colour = racism.

Slagging somebody off because they are black, yellow, ginger, fat, disabled, a cunt etc is all much of a muchness and people should just get over it.

Also her statement regarding black people only advancing through white people, although offensive to say is factually accurate. Can anyone demonstrate otherwise?

Depends on how we look at it. Through the white races egotistical, mental and physical take over of everything on the two great southern 'black only continents' and the mismanagement of soil through chemicals, strip farming, deforestation,without listening to the natives in each local area about sustainability; we have changed climate, killed off oceans and reefs, poisoned ourselves through our food into cancerous states are about to die off through our white orientated greedy choices.

Wow, how advanced.

[generalbulldog]

Don't you hate Jews? And didn't you called Yuri Foreman a dirty Jew that deserved to die? And now you're lecturing on racism and bigotry?

[Gandalf]

Don't you hate Jews? And didn't you called Yuri Foreman a dirty Jew that deserved to die? And now you're lecturing on racism and bigotry?

God, it's like dealing with the media. They dig up one line that was taken back and anytime you try to show your real self they fall back on that same line.

a) No, I don't hate Jews. Yes, I despise the Israeli government which routinely violates international law and war mongers in the Middle East.

b) My positions on race and bigotry are known over hundreds of posts, so it is inaccurate to say that my view is any less than that of anyone else.

My point is clear and simple. There are degrees of racism. I happen to think one is dangerous and the other relatively trivial.

All rather elementary.

[generalbulldog]

Don't you hate Jews? And didn't you called Yuri Foreman a dirty Jew that deserved to die? And now you're lecturing on racism and bigotry?

God, it's like dealing with the media. They dig up one line that was taken back and anytime you try to show your real self they fall back on that same line.

a) No, I don't hate Jews. Yes, I despise the Israeli government which routinely violates international law and war mongers in the Middle East.

b) My positions on race and bigotry are known over hundreds of posts, so it is inaccurate to say that my view is any less than that of anyone else.

My point is clear and simple. There are degrees of racism. I happen to think one is dangerous and the other relatively trivial.

All rather elementary.

So what level is your bigotry? Is it severe, moderate, or light? I think advocating the death of someone based on the group they belong to is pretty severe, no?

And let's be honest now, you typed what you did on Yuri Foreman because that's how you felt on certain groups, let's not blame it on the booze now shall we?

Look I like reading your posts and think you are somewhat funny, but let's not lecture people on racism/bigotry when your views on certain groups is blatantly clear. Actually, never mind just continue what you are doing, I find it quite funny.

[Gandalf]

Don't you hate Jews? And didn't you called Yuri Foreman a dirty Jew that deserved to die? And now you're lecturing on racism and bigotry?

God, it's like dealing with the media. They dig up one line that was taken back and anytime you try to show your real self they fall back on that same line.

a) No, I don't hate Jews. Yes, I despise the Israeli government which routinely violates international law and war mongers in the Middle East.

b) My positions on race and bigotry are known over hundreds of posts, so it is inaccurate to say that my view is any less than that of anyone else.

My point is clear and simple. There are degrees of racism. I happen to think one is dangerous and the other relatively trivial.

All rather elementary.

So what level is your bigotry? Is it severe, moderate, or light? I think advocating the death of someone based on the group they belong to is pretty severe, no?

And let's be honest now, you typed what you did on Yuri Foreman because that's how you felt on certain groups, let's not blame it on the booze now shall we?

Look I like reading your posts and think you are somewhat funny, but let's not lecture people on racism/bigotry when your views on certain groups is blatantly clear. Actually, never mind just continue what you are doing, I find it quite funny.

I am a light racist as I make allusions to race, but that largely comes from living in a country where I am the only white man and it is usually said just for effect.

Yuri Foreman was a ONE off. Never seen before and certainly not seen after. That instance was extreme and I have admitted as much. It was also taken back with an apology.

In a lifetime one says many things and evolves many trains of thought, but you don't condemn a man for a single thing said once in 1867. That in itself is narrow minded and lacking in fairness. And more so if one knows it was wrong and says as much.

Anyway, it seems this extreme racist has gone to a mental hospital and has schizophrenia. I think that is probably untrue, she went off the deep end and should just admit it and say sorry.

[Gandalf]

As I have said before some of my favourite people are Jews. Finkelstein and Chomsky are prime examples. They are wonderful people and I have nothing but respect. But if you are Netanyahu then I will despise you. It is human traits that I distinguish, not ethnicity.