Haye vs Chisora. will it happen?

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

So two British fighters take each Klitchko brother 12 rounds, instead of getting ko'd like countless Americans, and despite this and the last good heavyweight being the British fighter Lennox Lewis, it's the Brits who can't fight? Oh and punching someone with a safety glass bottle in your hand is not glassing someone.

Haye ran like a little punk and when he wasn't running HAYE was the one jumping into clinches and holding or falling down to the ground like Nani...as for the other fight, Vitali beat Chisora with 1 arm....you feel better now

Lennox Lewis had loads of talent, no one will deny it, he also carried himself like a gentleman and let his skill INSIDE the ring speak for his career.....Haye and Chisora Not so much...Haye is remembered for getting beaten by his shadow whilst shadow boxing and Chisora is remembered for spitting at Wlad, slapping Vitali, and getting smacked with a bottle at the post fight press conference.

As for the "glassing" comment, Chisora said that Haye had "glassed" him...I just used his words to describe what happened to him.


Chisora and Haye are only being talked about because they are fucking morons....it's not like they are any great shakes as boxers. Yeah they lasted the distance with both brothers....how many rounds did they win 4 out of 24 total? Give me a damn break. Chisora and Haye ARE on the same level IMO and they will have a good match should they decide to fight each other, but I've had enough with the histrionics of British heavyweights, from Audley "2012 Is My Year" Harrison all the way up to these punks....I've had it...show me as a fan what you can do in the ring, I've heard enough shit talking, I want to see some class (if they know what that is) in the ring.

At least Chisora came to fight. Haye isn't on Chisora's level. Chisora didn't dodge Vitali for three years, and then come to be a lame ass. Come on, dude. You can't be that stupid.

haye has heart

I'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?

If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.

[erics44]

haye has heart

I'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?

If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.

unfortunately man you are another who is clouded by your hate for haye

i dislike boxers but i dont let these feelings get in the way of my judgement of their skills

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

haye has heart

I'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?

If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.

unfortunately man you are another who is clouded by your hate for haye

i dislike boxers but i dont let these feelings get in the way of my judgement of their skills

What other side is there than what he's shown us? The side where he looks good against sub-par opponents? Don't give me that bullshit.

[erics44]

haye has heart

I'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?

If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.

unfortunately man you are another who is clouded by your hate for haye

i dislike boxers but i dont let these feelings get in the way of my judgement of their skills

What other side is there than what he's shown us? The side where he looks good against sub-par opponents? Don't give me that bullshit.

was he not the unified cruiser champ? did he not win the title away from home? was he not hw champ? did he not win the title away from home?

was he not willing to fight wlad in wlads boxing home? did he not give up all the advantages in the fight?

he has heart, i can see why you hate him, but be realistic

[Master]

Fortunately all the Haye accomplishments pale into insignificance by his Audley farce and Wlad toegate performance.

[erics44]

Fortunately all the Haye accomplishments pale into insignificance by his Audley farce and Wlad toegate performance.

I can understand how the wlad performance and the toe thing can make people think the way they do, but lets put that in perspective, how did wlad do in his first world championship fight?

How long was it before wlad fought away from home in a world championship fight?

The audley fight was a farce, the worst i have ever seen in boxing, i knew it would happen too, as did the majority of boxing fans. BUT david haye made more money out of that fight than he would have in any other fight barring the klits in germany, do you reall blame haye for that?

[Master]

Fortunately all the Haye accomplishments pale into insignificance by his Audley farce and Wlad toegate performance.

I can understand how the wlad performance and the toe thing can make people think the way they do, but lets put that in perspective, how did wlad do in his first world championship fight?

How long was it before wlad fought away from home in a world championship fight?

The audley fight was a farce, the worst i have ever seen in boxing, i knew it would happen too, as did the majority of boxing fans. BUT david haye made more money out of that fight than he would have in any other fight barring the klits in germany, do you reall blame haye for that?

It sums up his heavyweight project, make a lot of money with the minimum number of fights. Cannot blame him for that but cannot give him any credit for it either.

[El Kabong]

Fortunately all the Haye accomplishments pale into insignificance by his Audley farce and Wlad toegate performance.

I can understand how the wlad performance and the toe thing can make people think the way they do, but lets put that in perspective, how did wlad do in his first world championship fight?

How long was it before wlad fought away from home in a world championship fight?

The audley fight was a farce, the worst i have ever seen in boxing, i knew it would happen too, as did the majority of boxing fans. BUT david haye made more money out of that fight than he would have in any other fight barring the klits in germany, do you reall blame haye for that?

Wlad won the WBO title off of Chris Byrd in 2000 by UD and then defended the belt in 2001 in Las Vegas vs Charles Shufford...but he had fought away from home long before that.

[boyla]

haye has heart

I'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?

If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.

unfortunately man you are another who is clouded by your hate for haye

i dislike boxers but i dont let these feelings get in the way of my judgement of their skills

What other side is there than what he's shown us? The side where he looks good against sub-par opponents? Don't give me that bullshit.

was he not the unified cruiser champ? did he not win the title away from home? was he not hw champ? did he not win the title away from home?

was he not willing to fight wlad in wlads boxing home? did he not give up all the advantages in the fight?

he has heart, i can see why you hate him, but be realistic

Cruiser Weight champ, yes but that is still many rungs down the ladder from being HW champ.

Heavy Weight champion, only just in name he avoided the two biggest fighters Wlad and Vitali
Only later to be outclassed by Wlad in both the press conferences and the fight.

Even Buster Douglas, beat the undisputed HW champion, something Haye has never done.

[erics44]

Cruiser Weight champ, yes but that is still many rungs down the ladder from being HW champ.

Heavy Weight champion, only just in name he avoided the two biggest fighters Wlad and Vitali
Only later to be outclassed by Wlad in both the press conferences and the fight.

Even Buster Douglas, beat the undisputed HW champion, something Haye has never done.

avoid wlad and vitali yet he fought wlad? in his boxing home?

and haye doesnt have it because he didnt equal the single biggest upset in hw boxing history?

cummon man you can do better than that cant you?

[boyla]

Cruiser Weight champ, yes but that is still many rungs down the ladder from being HW champ.

Heavy Weight champion, only just in name he avoided the two biggest fighters Wlad and Vitali
Only later to be outclassed by Wlad in both the press conferences and the fight.

Even Buster Douglas, beat the undisputed HW champion, something Haye has never done.

avoid wlad and vitali yet he fought wlad? in his boxing home?

and haye doesnt have it because he didnt equal the single biggest upset in hw boxing history?

cummon man you can do better than that cant you?

Well it is hard to justify calling him a HW champion, because he avoided to two best ranked heavyweights.
He got a belt, but he didn't beat a top HW fighter, he was not even the best fighter in Europe nevermind the world.
Since when does beating the third? best HW, make you champion.

When he did fight one of the two top ranked HW for the past ten years, he lost.
Not much a a heavy weight champion there.

Buster beat the undisputed HW champion, so did Hasim Rahman, something Haye will never achieve.
As for his very short reign as a HW champion of the world ,
He fought Ruiz then Ordinary Harrison, then he got beat and retired.

Not what I would call a champion, Ruiz was ranked a still giving good performances.

I am not expecting every HW to be a lineal champion, but I expect them to beat the best fighters in the division, before they can claim to be the best.

The Klitschos have been a dominate force in the HW for the past ten years to side step them, beat "another" fighter then wear a belt and claim you are the best fighter in the world.

It just does not add up.

So when people claim Haye was a HW champion, who did he beat to earn that title, Valuev just does not cut the mustard, then Ruiz, Ordinary then he got beat.