Is there anything more boring/depressing

[Gandalf]

I think celebrity culture and the way senseless hordes slather all over fucked up famous people is wrong, but to say that someone who uses alcohol or drugs excessively doesn't care about family is wrong. Everyone in the UK binge drinks or takes drugs and I imagine America is quite similar. It isn't just a celebrity thing. Are we to just denigrate them all and just ignore the societal aspects and the personality issues behind such behavior too?

Substance abuse is often a shield for other underlying problems and I agree that it isn't good. But you have done it and so have I and so we shouldn't take it out on others who simply haven't realised that hiding in booze and drugs isn't the answer. For some people it takes longer to work out, some never do.

For me the most depressing aspect is the so called war on drugs. It's a lost cause and clearly it is time to realise that a new strategy is needed. The blackmarket operates in billions of dollars. You might as well tax it and regulate it. Having alcohol in the supermarket but not be able to use weed freely is a farce. I wouldn't use weed and don't even want to drink anymore, but you need consistency.

[Mars_ax]

I think celebrity culture and the way senseless hordes slather all over fucked up famous people is wrong, but to say that someone who uses alcohol or drugs excessively doesn't care about family is wrong. Everyone in the UK binge drinks or takes drugs and I imagine America is quite similar. It isn't just a celebrity thing. Are we to just denigrate them all and just ignore the societal aspects and the personality issues behind such behavior too?

Substance abuse is often a shield for other underlying problems and I agree that it isn't good. But you have done it and so have I and so we shouldn't take it out on others who simply haven't realised that hiding in booze and drugs isn't the answer. For some people it takes longer to work out, some never do.

For me the most depressing aspect is the so called war on drugs. It's a lost cause and clearly it is time to realise that a new strategy is needed. The blackmarket operates in billions of dollars. You might as well tax it and regulate it. Having alcohol in the supermarket but not be able to use weed freely is a farce. I wouldn't use weed and don't even want to drink anymore, but you need consistency.

Everyone binge drinks or or takes drugs? I really doubt that Miles. Please tell me how an alcoholic isn't a selfish piece of shit who couldn't care less about his family.

As for the war on drugs, I agree with you, a total failure, and colossal waste of resources better spent elsewhere.

[Gandalf]

You just admitted to being an alcoholic who reformed. And yes, a lot of people do indulge. Too many. Sure they are selfish. But they also feel other things and it is a complicated process.

Don't look on high and criticize. It is hypocritical.

[Mars_ax]

You just admitted to being an alcoholic who reformed. And yes, a lot of people do indulge. Too many. Sure they are selfish. But they also feel other things and it is a complicated process.

Don't look on high and criticize. It is hypocritical.

Being a former "drunk", i'm more critical of myself then I am of others, for the most part I don't look down on anybody, i'm just me, been there done that. In my case even though I was an alcoholic, I still provided well for my family, money was never a problem and i'd like to believe I was a good husband and a loving father.

The thing is, I was still being selfish staying drunk 3 or 4 days a week and i'm sure that at times I had to be miserable to live with. And even though I was a good enough provider, husband and father, I wanted to do better and give my family the very best of me.

[Andre]

You just admitted to being an alcoholic who reformed. And yes, a lot of people do indulge. Too many. Sure they are selfish. But they also feel other things and it is a complicated process.

Don't look on high and criticize. It is hypocritical.

Being a former "drunk", i'm more critical of myself then I am of others, for the most part I don't look down on anybody, i'm just me, been there done that. In my case even though I was an alcoholic, I still provided well for my family, money was never a problem and i'd like to believe I was a good husband and a loving father.

The thing is, I was still being selfish staying drunk 3 or 4 days a week and i'm sure that at times I had to be miserable to live with. And even though I was a good enough provider, husband and father, I wanted to do better and give my family the very best of me.

Only one thing worse than a reformed drinker and thats a reformed drinker who likes country music




couldnt resist.