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    Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
    Wow that would be a serious diffrence considering Floyd's gloves are usually puffy and fat. Where did you hear this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
    Kind of an odd thing. I don't really understand Mayweather's position that he wants 8 oz? He had the postion of wanting 10oz and fight at 154lbs against Pacquiao. With a his hostory of hand problems one would think he'd like the extra padding.

    Anyone know if the commission just weighs the gloves, supplies the gloves or checks to see if there is a correct amount of layers and type of padding over the fist? I would think it's easy for the manufacture to add weight just about anywhere if someone wanted a custom glove. I would also think that the different manufactures each have thier own padding methods around the fist and different methods of balancing a gloves weight depending on the hand size. I've seen written descriptions about gloves in the rules write up but never anything that details specific material and padding layer requirements for the different size gloves. Only general statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelardus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
    Wow that would be a serious diffrence considering Floyd's gloves are usually puffy and fat. Where did you hear this?
    It was on boxingscene. Apparently Floyd feels a little resentful for having to wear what he called "heavyweight gloves" vs De la Hoya and I guess he thinks he could have done better with smaller gloves.

    All I can tell you is Cotto is a BRUTAL puncher with smaller gloves, look at his opponents at 140-147, they constantly had damage from those big left hooks.

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    Not making any excuses for Miguel but his skin pretty much tears up here pretty fast, but I do believe he is nowhere near getting dazed or stunned here, he can take PBF's shots. I do hope its a firefight that's Cotto's only chance
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    I've also heard the 8oz glove rumour and if it's true then I think Floyd is gunning for a KO win here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    I've also heard the 8oz glove rumour and if it's true then I think Floyd is gunning for a KO win here.
    That and maybe Cotto breaks a hand on Floyd's hip or shoulder. Cotto WILL have difficulty with the speed of Mayweather, but he's game, he's rugged, and I think it will be an easier style for Cotto to handle when you compare it to the Pacquiao style as there won't be as many awkward angles, but that said there's going to be less space to hit Floyd clean because he's a very slick fighter.

    This is a tough fight for Cotto, but he CAN pull off the win, he's still a good boxer, still very dangerous, and he's younger than Floyd, he's seen Floyd before vs his friend Bruseles...this is going to be a card I buy because of this fight, but also Canelo-Mosley which could also end in an upset.

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    Cotto chances are slim. I don't think he has the tools for the job. Maybe his best chance is to try and get all over mayweather, but still, thats the flawed strategy that most of mayweathers previous opponents tried.
    The best tool he's got is is jab, which is ramrod and well timed. His left hook is good but mayweather's philly shell puts a dampener these punches. in fact left hooks are liability against mayweather as he counters so well off of them.
    So how does cotto have a good chance, other than a punchers chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    I've also heard the 8oz glove rumour and if it's true then I think Floyd is gunning for a KO win here.
    That and maybe Cotto breaks a hand on Floyd's hip or shoulder. Cotto WILL have difficulty with the speed of Mayweather, but he's game, he's rugged, and I think it will be an easier style for Cotto to handle when you compare it to the Pacquiao style as there won't be as many awkward angles, but that said there's going to be less space to hit Floyd clean because he's a very slick fighter.

    This is a tough fight for Cotto, but he CAN pull off the win, he's still a good boxer, still very dangerous, and he's younger than Floyd, he's seen Floyd before vs his friend Bruseles...this is going to be a card I buy because of this fight, but also Canelo-Mosley which could also end in an upset.
    Definitely agree with that. Looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bestjabwins View Post
    Cotto chances are slim. I don't think he has the tools for the job. Maybe his best chance is to try and get all over mayweather, but still, thats the flawed strategy that most of mayweathers previous opponents tried.
    The best tool he's got is is jab, which is ramrod and well timed. His left hook is good but mayweather's philly shell puts a dampener these punches. in fact left hooks are liability against mayweather as he counters so well off of them.
    So how does cotto have a good chance, other than a punchers chance?
    1. Use the jab - De la Hoya had great success with his jab, Cotto used it well vs Mosley. The timing of the jab nullifies speed.

    2. Land the hook often - work the body, work the arms, the shoulder, hips, everything. Miguel has a powerful punch, one powerful enough to break jaws, one powerful enough to stop a fighter with a shot to the shoulder. Working to the body takes the legs away, working on the guard takes the defense and speed away....after that Floyd may be downright normal if all goes to plan.

    3. Make Floyd forget the right hand - Cotto can switch up and has big power in both hands...if he switches southpaw and can blast a right hook in and make contact then great, if he can lull Floyd into range and time a solid right cross from an orthodox stance even better...but Floyd must be more wary of the left hook than the right hand in order for Cotto to catch him offguard.

    No doubt it's an uphill battle for Cotto, but he's a warrior, he has heart

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    I told you - Floyd is looking for the K.O. in this one. Floyd's biggest chip on his shoulder is outdoing Manny Pacquiao.

    He shut out Marquez to prove a point to Pacquiao and he will want a Gatti type performance against Cotto to say "Anything you can do, I can do better!" - He has already made sure the fight is up at 154 instead of catchweight.

    My prediction remains. Floyd by K.O but he will be surprised by Cotto's skills/timing/speed early on. The K.O will be quite late once he has adapted. (but sooner than the 12th otherwise it's not as good as Pacquiao's)

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Abelardus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
    Wow that would be a serious diffrence considering Floyd's gloves are usually puffy and fat. Where did you hear this?
    It was on boxingscene. Apparently Floyd feels a little resentful for having to wear what he called "heavyweight gloves" vs De la Hoya and I guess he thinks he could have done better with smaller gloves.

    All I can tell you is Cotto is a BRUTAL puncher with smaller gloves, look at his opponents at 140-147, they constantly had damage from those big left hooks.
    Cotto was a burtal body puncher. Key word being was. Them days are over. He doesnt attack the body like before cuz he's wary of being countered upstairs. His once savage body attack was non-existant against Pacquiao and Margarito. I don't see it being a factor against Mayweather

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    Cotto was a burtal body puncher. Key word being was. Them days are over. He doesnt attack the body like before cuz he's wary of being countered upstairs. His once savage body attack was non-existant against Pacquiao and Margarito. I don't see it being a factor against Mayweather
    OK....so you just think from 1 to 12 this is a total shutout? I think Cotto matches up fairly well, he'll at least give it a solid go for 5 rounds before he starts slowing down however the fight is going....I would be shocked if Floyd got to him any earlier. Floyd could be making a big mistake by not having a catchweight, believing Cotto's best is past him, and not trusting that Cotto is a solid BOXER as well as power puncher. Cotto has been hit with a lot before and always fought on...Floyd will have to wear him down make him chase, and coounter him. Cotto has been stopped 2 times once vs a cheater with loaded wraps and second at a catchweight and sans trainer. Cotto still has Pedro Diaz, a well respected trainer who really helped him do a number on Margarito...you never can tell when a fighter can get a second wind in his career.

    Just because Cotto doesn't attack the body as aggressively as before doesn't mean he lacks power. Power and timing are key for Cotto...he will be outsped and be fighting a guy with better stamina, but he can change all that with a few punches. If Cotto hurts Floyd like Mosley and Zab did there WILL be a knockdown and perhaps a knockout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Cotto was a burtal body puncher. Key word being was. Them days are over. He doesnt attack the body like before cuz he's wary of being countered upstairs. His once savage body attack was non-existant against Pacquiao and Margarito. I don't see it being a factor against Mayweather
    OK....so you just think from 1 to 12 this is a total shutout? I think Cotto matches up fairly well, he'll at least give it a solid go for 5 rounds before he starts slowing down however the fight is going....I would be shocked if Floyd got to him any earlier. Floyd could be making a big mistake by not having a catchweight, believing Cotto's best is past him, and not trusting that Cotto is a solid BOXER as well as power puncher. Cotto has been hit with a lot before and always fought on...Floyd will have to wear him down make him chase, and coounter him. Cotto has been stopped 2 times once vs a cheater with loaded wraps and second at a catchweight and sans trainer. Cotto still has Pedro Diaz, a well respected trainer who really helped him do a number on Margarito...you never can tell when a fighter can get a second wind in his career.

    Just because Cotto doesn't attack the body as aggressively as before doesn't mean he lacks power. Power and timing are key for Cotto...he will be outsped and be fighting a guy with better stamina, but he can change all that with a few punches. If Cotto hurts Floyd like Mosley and Zab did there WILL be a knockdown and perhaps a knockout.
    I think the body attack is a moot point anyway. Floyd has been in with good body punchers before and it didn't matter a single bit. Hatton got worked inside and out. I think people think because Castillo had success against a Floyd with a torn rotator cuff, that it must be the blueprint to beat him. Truth is Floyd is never phased by body punchers and anybody who tries gets countered up top anyway and soon decide that a body attack is a bad idea.

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    Floyd picks shots off with his arms and shoulders....I'm telling you Cotto has stopped a guy with a punch to the shoulder. Miguel Cotto has the power to make an impact on how Floyd decides to fight...it's just a matter of getting the punches to the target on time

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