Why is HBO so bias against Sergio Martinez ?

[Gandalf]

That wasn't the first time Martinez looked ordinary against nobody. I can't blame hbo.

yet they acted like Pacquiao was blowing his opponent away against Clottey, where Manny looked far from extraordinary

It was a shut out, Martinez hasn't been shutting out anyone.

Not that I think it even matters, a convincing win is a convincing win.

[ElTerribleMorales]

That wasn't the first time Martinez looked ordinary against nobody. I can't blame hbo.

yet they acted like Pacquiao was blowing his opponent away against Clottey, where Manny looked far from extraordinary

It was a shut out, Martinez hasn't been shutting out anyone.

Not that I think it even matters, a convincing win is a convincing win.

yea he's been stopping everyone, once he figure his guy out he stops him, so I fail to see why he gets so much criticism, we all knew Macklin was a lot better than a 10-1 underdog, it's more of a case that Macklin performed well rather than Martinez looked flat

[Rantcatrat]

That wasn't the first time Martinez looked ordinary against nobody. I can't blame hbo.

yet they acted like Pacquiao was blowing his opponent away against Clottey, where Manny looked far from extraordinary

It was a shut out, Martinez hasn't been shutting out anyone.

Not that I think it even matters, a convincing win is a convincing win.

yea he's been stopping everyone, once he figure his guy out he stops him, so I fail to see why he gets so much criticism, we all knew Macklin was a lot better than a 10-1 underdog, it's more of a case that Macklin performed well rather than Martinez looked flat

I also think it's that Macklin boxed more than brawled, which suprised Sergio.

[Fenster]

Macklin surprised me too. I expected him to brawl more which would have made it easy for Martinez. Instead he stuck to a good gameplan until Martinez superior class took over.

Martinez has got shit in his last two fights but the truth is - Macklin and Barker have been underestimated. They're both smart fighters that weren't turning-up to roll over, they tried to win.

Martinez P4P position is fully deserved IMO. Fact.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Macklin surprised me too. I expected him to brawl more which would have made it easy for Martinez. Instead he stuck to a good gameplan until Martinez superior class took over.

Martinez has got shit in his last two fights but the truth is - Macklin and Barker have been underestimated. They're both smart fighters that weren't turning-up to roll over, they tried to win.

Martinez P4P position is fully deserved IMO. Fact.

agreed, even Martinez said that Macklin's more tactical approach took him by surprise so he laid back a bit and took his time with him

[Mars_ax]

Macklin surprised me too. I expected him to brawl more which would have made it easy for Martinez. Instead he stuck to a good gameplan until Martinez superior class took over.

Martinez has got shit in his last two fights but the truth is - Macklin and Barker have been underestimated. They're both smart fighters that weren't turning-up to roll over, they tried to win.

Martinez P4P position is fully deserved IMO. Fact.

Actually I put Martinez ahead of Mayweather in P4P, because Mayweather hasn't fought enough the last 5 years to deserve to be ranked.

[Mr140]

He is in a weak weight division and the fighters he just fought are probably below world class. He is just not as dominate as the other fighters seem to be against weaker fighters it seems.

[armin]

He knocks em out, and not with a lucky shot but takes a while to figure em out n then tgheyre outa there, good enough for me....can't get much more dominant then that, sure he looses rounds here n there but who cares he finishes in style...

[Mars_ax]

He knocks em out, and not with a lucky shot but takes a while to figure em out n then they're outa there, good enough for me....can't get much more dominant then that, sure he looses rounds here n there but who cares he finishes in style...

The real test is, name someone P4P besides Pacquiao, (I don't count Mayweather, he doesn't fight often enough) who deserves to be ranked higher than Martinez, there really isn't anyone.

Macklin said he was going to brawl and take the fight to Sergio, but instead in the first 6 rounds he boxed, kept his hands up and fought more defensively. From the 7th round on it looked like Macklin started to come forward and brawl more, but that's when Martinez started finding the range and pounding Matt with those powerful straight left hands. Like all great champions Sergio became more agressive and turned it up a notch when he needed to. You only needed to look at Macklin's face and then Sergio's at the finish of the fight to see who was landing the more effective punches.

[Leighton]

He knocks em out, and not with a lucky shot but takes a while to figure em out n then they're outa there, good enough for me....can't get much more dominant then that, sure he looses rounds here n there but who cares he finishes in style...

The real test is, name someone P4P besides Pacquiao, (I don't count Mayweather, he doesn't fight often enough) who deserves to be ranked higher than Martinez, there really isn't anyone.

Macklin said he was going to brawl and take the fight to Sergio, but instead in the first 6 rounds he boxed, kept his hands up and fought more defensively. From the 7th round on it looked like Macklin started to come forward and brawl more, but that's when Martinez started finding the range and pounding Matt with those powerful straight left hands. Like all great champions Sergio became more agressive and turned it up a notch when he needed to. You only needed to look at Macklin's face and then Sergio's at the finish of the fight to see who was landing the more effective punches.

Macklin always tires out at the end of the fight. Martinez done what he needed to do which was to play around for the first seven rounds until Macklin got tired and then finish the job. I think Martinez could have finished the fight earlier. He done a bit of a Klitchko. He is incredibly fit though and has great power and speed. I think a Martinez Pac fight would be good. I still see Mayweather beating both of them. Im not a Fan of Mayweather but he is p4p number one because he is the best. Irritating some one so up his own ass is the best but thats just the way it is.

[Gandalf]

Mayweather deserves a hard time with some of his choices. Baldomir? Really? Judah off of a loss to Baldomir? Really? Marquez at a CW and then not making weight? Really? Not fighting Margarito, Cotto, Williams or Mosley when they still had something? Really?

Mayweather deserves a lot of his flak.

[ruthless rocco]

The real test is, name someone P4P besides Pacquiao, (I don't count Mayweather, he doesn't fight often enough) who deserves to be ranked higher than Martinez, there really isn't anyone.

floyd mayweather
manny pacquiao
juan manuel marquez
nonito donaire
wlad klitchko

martinez has looked less than gifted against his last two opponents who are B level fighters at best. the ease with which macklin and barker were able to connect with martinez' head and body doesn't inspire much confidence. if he were to be put in the ring p4p against any of the above fighters i see fairly clear losses for martinez on all counts.

[ElTerribleMorales]

The real test is, name someone P4P besides Pacquiao, (I don't count Mayweather, he doesn't fight often enough) who deserves to be ranked higher than Martinez, there really isn't anyone.

floyd mayweather
manny pacquiao
juan manuel marquez
nonito donaire
wlad klitchko

martinez has looked less than gifted against his last two opponents who are B level fighters at best. the ease with which macklin and barker were able to connect with martinez' head and body doesn't inspire much confidence. if he were to be put in the ring p4p against any of the above fighters i see fairly clear losses for martinez on all counts.

Donaire didn't look all that great last two times out either, difference is Martinez got the KO twice while Donaire didn't come close

[Mars_ax]

The real test is, name someone P4P besides Pacquiao, (I don't count Mayweather, he doesn't fight often enough) who deserves to be ranked higher than Martinez, there really isn't anyone.

floyd mayweather
manny pacquiao
juan manuel marquez
nonito donaire
wlad klitchko

martinez has looked less than gifted against his last two opponents who are B level fighters at best. the ease with which macklin and barker were able to connect with martinez' head and body doesn't inspire much confidence. if he were to be put in the ring p4p against any of the above fighters i see fairly clear losses for martinez on all counts.

Eh, you just come off as someone who doesn't like Martinez, most of the P4P rankings have Martinez @ #3., those are just the facts.

[shza]

The real test is, name someone P4P besides Pacquiao, (I don't count Mayweather, he doesn't fight often enough) who deserves to be ranked higher than Martinez, there really isn't anyone.

floyd mayweather
manny pacquiao
juan manuel marquez
nonito donaire
wlad klitchko

martinez has looked less than gifted against his last two opponents who are B level fighters at best. the ease with which macklin and barker were able to connect with martinez' head and body doesn't inspire much confidence. if he were to be put in the ring p4p against any of the above fighters i see fairly clear losses for martinez on all counts.

I agree with ratcatrant's responses in full. I'd just add that Marquez, much as I love watching him, gets hit way more than Martinez, and against worse opposition (Katsidis anyone?).

Floyd and Pac are really the only two I could see above Martinez. I'd put Donaire as 4 (for now -- while I think he'll pick it back up, his last outing was extremely unimpressive; and the MRI showed that he did not, in fact, have a broken hand). And Wlad at 5.