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    Has it ever been any different?

    Is it any different for fighters from other countries?

    It's normal now. Over match a fighter, build up the record, beat some has been big names then get some form of title.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Difficult for Brook to get fights against legit top 10 guys. Ring ranked guys:

    Pac-out of the question
    Floyd-out of the question
    Berto or Ortiz-fighting each other
    Senchenko-he doesn't leave the Ukraine.
    Mike Jones-that is a fight that would make sense but all stupid boxers love trinkets and Jones gets a shot at one coming up.
    Zaveck-lost to Berto and has gone back to fighting chumps
    Aydin-He is fighting Guerrero. and honestly I've never seen him fight
    Devon Alexander-just moved up to 147.

    147 is a strange division. You basically have the 2 cash cows (Floyd and Pac), the 2 just below them that want to face the cash cows or each other in order to make big, big paydays (Berto/Ortiz), guys you haven't seen and no one knows alot about (Senchenko, Zaveck, Aydin), and the up and comers (Brook, Jones, Alexander).

    While Alexander should easily get into the mix with the top 4 guys because of his prior success at 140, Brook and Jones need to move up the ladder this year.

    As for Cleverly, he is alot younger than the other guys at 175. When most of the other top 10 guys were Cleverly's age they weren't facing top competition.

    His team needs to pick it up this year and find someone in the top 10 that makes sense (in giving Cleverly a fighting chance to win). Someone in the lower part of the top 10, who can push Cleverly, but probably doesn't deal his career a setback at this point.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Difficult for Brook to get fights against legit top 10 guys. Ring ranked guys:

    Pac-out of the question
    Floyd-out of the question
    Berto or Ortiz-fighting each other
    Senchenko-he doesn't leave the Ukraine.
    Mike Jones-that is a fight that would make sense but all stupid boxers love trinkets and Jones gets a shot at one coming up.
    Zaveck-lost to Berto and has gone back to fighting chumps
    Aydin-He is fighting Guerrero. and honestly I've never seen him fight
    Devon Alexander-just moved up to 147.

    147 is a strange division. You basically have the 2 cash cows (Floyd and Pac), the 2 just below them that want to face the cash cows or each other in order to make big, big paydays (Berto/Ortiz), guys you haven't seen and no one knows alot about (Senchenko, Zaveck, Aydin), and the up and comers (Brook, Jones, Alexander).

    While Alexander should easily get into the mix with the top 4 guys because of his prior success at 140, Brook and Jones need to move up the ladder this year.

    As for Cleverly, he is alot younger than the other guys at 175. When most of the other top 10 guys were Cleverly's age they weren't facing top competition.

    His team needs to pick it up this year and find someone in the top 10 that makes sense (in giving Cleverly a fighting chance to win). Someone in the lower part of the top 10, who can push Cleverly, but probably doesn't deal his career a setback at this point.
    Agreed. That is exactly what Cleverly and Warren have just avoided They could have taken on someone ranked in the top ten but decided to fight someone ranked around 40th in the world. But you can see Warren is just looking for the big pay day as he thinks this bullshit match that he has just arranged will give Cleverly a chance against the winner of Dawson vs Hopkins. Throwing him to the lions to make a quick buck.
    I know he is young but he has a title so should have to defend it against legit opposition. Your not telling me that someone ranked so low deserves a shot at a world title.

    As for Brook, I like him and think he could be a great boxer but he has already had 27 fights. That is alot in my book and think he should be stepping up in his next fight. Do you guys not get bored of a boxer like Murray taking on loads of losers, watching all his easy fights and then he suddenly steps up after ages only to lose to a good boxer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Difficult for Brook to get fights against legit top 10 guys. Ring ranked guys:

    Pac-out of the question
    Floyd-out of the question
    Berto or Ortiz-fighting each other
    Senchenko-he doesn't leave the Ukraine.
    Mike Jones-that is a fight that would make sense but all stupid boxers love trinkets and Jones gets a shot at one coming up.
    Zaveck-lost to Berto and has gone back to fighting chumps
    Aydin-He is fighting Guerrero. and honestly I've never seen him fight
    Devon Alexander-just moved up to 147.

    147 is a strange division. You basically have the 2 cash cows (Floyd and Pac), the 2 just below them that want to face the cash cows or each other in order to make big, big paydays (Berto/Ortiz), guys you haven't seen and no one knows alot about (Senchenko, Zaveck, Aydin), and the up and comers (Brook, Jones, Alexander).

    While Alexander should easily get into the mix with the top 4 guys because of his prior success at 140, Brook and Jones need to move up the ladder this year.

    As for Cleverly, he is alot younger than the other guys at 175. When most of the other top 10 guys were Cleverly's age they weren't facing top competition.

    His team needs to pick it up this year and find someone in the top 10 that makes sense (in giving Cleverly a fighting chance to win). Someone in the lower part of the top 10, who can push Cleverly, but probably doesn't deal his career a setback at this point.
    Not that I disagree with anything you've said, it's all true, but Clev is a world champion! By default he should be fighting the top guys, not some low end top 10 fighters.

    However that does not make financial sense, so I can't blame Cleve and team

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Has it ever been any different?

    Is it any different for fighters from other countries?

    It's normal now. Over match a fighter, build up the record, beat some has been big names then get some form of title.
    Lol. That's the way it is now.
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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    I would hate to have some of you Guys,as managers or promoters you would fuck up your fighters
    quick time.Hard fights makes for short careers you build your career slow,remember the great fighters
    did not face each other on a regular bases.Boxing is a money business the best fighters face each other
    for big money, if you think not you are living in la-la land the 3 points in boxing Wealth 1st Fame 2and
    Acclaim 3rd simple.

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