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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Cleverly gets protected cuz he sucks.

    Promising young british fighters dont get babied as much. Take Kev for instance. He took on a very dangerous prescott and took em to school.. Then a prime katsidis etc...

    There is no choice but to protect guys like cleverly and burns although hes scottish or whatever.lol they are limited, domestic talents.

    Kell brook may have been protected but hes still the truth..

    Kev and brook are the real deals.. Rest of them are ordinary and must be protected.. Look for ricly burns to go on that belt milking tour against part time fish n chips makers. Looks like hres already starting to make excuses to back out from a showdown with kev... Talking about conflict of schedules blah blah..
    Finito see your still in love Kev, remember bud the ones you love let you down as for Cleverly he's in
    no hurry age is on his side careers are a marathon not a sprint my friend.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Cleverly gets protected cuz he sucks.

    Promising young british fighters dont get babied as much. Take Kev for instance. He took on a very dangerous prescott and took em to school.. Then a prime katsidis etc...

    There is no choice but to protect guys like cleverly and burns although hes scottish or whatever.lol they are limited, domestic talents.

    Kell brook may have been protected but hes still the truth..

    Kev and brook are the real deals.. Rest of them are ordinary and must be protected.. Look for ricly burns to go on that belt milking tour against part time fish n chips makers. Looks like hres already starting to make excuses to back out from a showdown with kev... Talking about conflict of schedules blah blah..
    Finito see your still in love Kev, remember bud the ones you love let you down as for Cleverly he's in
    no hurry age is on his side careers are a marathon not a sprint my friend.
    If thats the case he should give up the title and fight the lower fighters without pretending they are top opposition. When Warren and Clev avoid there manditory ranked ninth in the world and take on someone ranked 40th in the world, they might as well give the belt up. There are people in line who have earned a shot at this title and Clev and Warren have worked it so a undeserving fighter gets a shot just because he is a safer fight. ITS ALL WRONG.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.
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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.
    Well I for one am a fan of a fighter. I didnt watch the last two cleverly fights properly, just sky plus and fast foward it to a ko or decision victory. As far as Murray goes I remember people saying how he was the next best thing but knew as soon as he was put against reasonably good opposition he would lose. He was prowd of his record for being the british fighter with most fights undefeated. But they were a bunch of losers. I just cant enjoy watching people beat on weaker people for so long.
    I know UFC is less entertaining than boxing but at least the fighters are challenged at the right level.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.
    Well I for one am a fan of a fighter. I didnt watch the last two cleverly fights properly, just sky plus and fast foward it to a ko or decision victory. As far as Murray goes I remember people saying how he was the next best thing but knew as soon as he was put against reasonably good opposition he would lose. He was prowd of his record for being the british fighter with most fights undefeated. But they were a bunch of losers. I just cant enjoy watching people beat on weaker people for so long.
    I know UFC is less entertaining than boxing but at least the fighters are challenged at the right level.
    It seem to me you are a bit slow on the uptake, you will never see fighters fighting top class opposition week in week out it does not happen. Take note my friend if you were a manager
    you would turn a winner into a loser.what for your own self gratification match making is
    not easy you shout and moan. we all do as fans remember in this game money rules as I have
    said in the past the moneys right they fight.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.
    Well I for one am a fan of a fighter. I didnt watch the last two cleverly fights properly, just sky plus and fast foward it to a ko or decision victory. As far as Murray goes I remember people saying how he was the next best thing but knew as soon as he was put against reasonably good opposition he would lose. He was prowd of his record for being the british fighter with most fights undefeated. But they were a bunch of losers. I just cant enjoy watching people beat on weaker people for so long.
    I know UFC is less entertaining than boxing but at least the fighters are challenged at the right level.
    It seem to me you are a bit slow on the uptake, you will never see fighters fighting top class opposition week in week out it does not happen. Take note my friend if you were a manager
    you would turn a winner into a loser.what for your own self gratification match making is
    not easy you shout and moan. we all do as fans remember in this game money rules as I have
    said in the past the moneys right they fight.
    I have no problem with them having easy fights inbetween tough fights. But they have way too many easy fights inbetween and take too long to take on good opposition. You compare Khan to Murray. How many fights do you need before you take a risk. Like you say its all down to money, but we lose out and I find myself not bothering to watch good home fighters.
    If Clevs next two fights were against people ranked 30th or under would you bother to watch them?

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.
    Well I for one am a fan of a fighter. I didnt watch the last two cleverly fights properly, just sky plus and fast foward it to a ko or decision victory. As far as Murray goes I remember people saying how he was the next best thing but knew as soon as he was put against reasonably good opposition he would lose. He was prowd of his record for being the british fighter with most fights undefeated. But they were a bunch of losers. I just cant enjoy watching people beat on weaker people for so long.
    I know UFC is less entertaining than boxing but at least the fighters are challenged at the right level.
    It seem to me you are a bit slow on the uptake, you will never see fighters fighting top class opposition week in week out it does not happen. Take note my friend if you were a manager
    you would turn a winner into a loser.what for your own self gratification match making is
    not easy you shout and moan. we all do as fans remember in this game money rules as I have
    said in the past the moneys right they fight.
    I have no problem with them having easy fights inbetween tough fights. But they have way too many easy fights inbetween and take too long to take on good opposition. You compare Khan to Murray. How many fights do you need before you take a risk. Like you say its all down to money, but we lose out and I find myself not bothering to watch good home fighters.
    If Clevs next two fights were against people ranked 30th or under would you bother to watch them?
    I can see were you are coming from, there are times you will have to face good fighters problem is
    there are not many undisputed champions about theses days.
    Here is my take you got 4 champions at one weight 4 top ten fighters in there ranking ,that forty fighters in there top ten. Some will be ranked in all 4 so looking at the overall picture, you got your 4
    champs 1 outstanding 1 good and the others mediocre.The same for the contenders some will be good and some crap what a mix my friend were do you start.
    What it boils down to lots of champs and contenders at one weight yes some quality and some dross
    thats how boxing stands at the moment.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.

    you have to think about timing too

    take john murray as a good example, im not saying he was ever a world beater but had he been stepped up a few fights before then maybe he would have progressed a bit better

    perhaps not the strongest example

    by the way i think the opening post is very harsh
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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    I think there are some that are & some that aren't

    Groves & DeGale have been match-up ok
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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Perhaps I'm not very familiar with British boxing, but if I had to answer the question: absolutely not. I often give examples of British matchups to prove that boxers are overly protected in my own country.

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    Default Re: Are British boxers too protected these days.

    Always rated kell brook for way way back and even though he hasn't really been tested though he looked really good against durable Mathew hatton.kell brook didn't even break sweat againt hatton and made a great account of himself as a great uk prospect.kevin Mitchell is coming on strong after getting his private life issues out the way.kevin mitchell is worth a world title.Ricky burns is looking awesome at his new weight and proved his worth at world title level.David price is another good prospect for us Brits think he has the right tools to dominate the heavyweight division after a bit more experience.

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