Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas

[Chino]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

[roberto duran legend]

I like Lee he has some good boxing skills . Best fighter JCC Jnr has fought by a long margin,
Hope Lee can kick his pampered ass.

[TitoFan]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

I'm not saying Chavez is no good... I'm just saying he's not as good as his bloated record would indicate. Give me a 25-1 or 30-2 fighter who's faced the best competition out there... instead of a coddled 45-0-1 fighter, who's being spoon-fed carefully picked opponents..... any day of the week.

[Chino]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

I'm not saying Chavez is no good... I'm just saying he's not as good as his bloated record would indicate. Give me a 25-1 or 30-2 fighter who's faced the best competition out there... instead of a coddled 45-0-1 fighter, who's being spoon-fed carefully picked opponents..... any day of the week.

He's technically an amateur (since he has no amateur experience what so ever) facing guys who have 2 or 3 times his experience. I wonder if people would think different about him if he didn't have Chavez as his last name.

[TitoFan]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

I'm not saying Chavez is no good... I'm just saying he's not as good as his bloated record would indicate. Give me a 25-1 or 30-2 fighter who's faced the best competition out there... instead of a coddled 45-0-1 fighter, who's being spoon-fed carefully picked opponents..... any day of the week.

He's technically an amateur (since he has no amateur experience what so ever) facing guys who have 2 or 3 times his experience. I wonder if people would think different about him if he didn't have Chavez as his last name.

If he's technically an amateur, he shouldn't have a 45-0-1 record. It's misleading. It's insulting to those boxers who had an extensive amateur career and then turned pro. You don't see anybody adding their amateur victories to their pro record do you? It's like comparing apples and oranges. And really..... if he didn't have the Chavez last name, he would've never been allowed to amass such a pro record without fighting anyone with a pulse.

[Chino]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

I'm not saying Chavez is no good... I'm just saying he's not as good as his bloated record would indicate. Give me a 25-1 or 30-2 fighter who's faced the best competition out there... instead of a coddled 45-0-1 fighter, who's being spoon-fed carefully picked opponents..... any day of the week.

He's technically an amateur (since he has no amateur experience what so ever) facing guys who have 2 or 3 times his experience. I wonder if people would think different about him if he didn't have Chavez as his last name.

If he's technically an amateur, he shouldn't have a 45-0-1 record. It's misleading. It's insulting to those boxers who had an extensive amateur career and then turned pro. You don't see anybody adding their amateur victories to their pro record do you? It's like comparing apples and oranges. And really..... if he didn't have the Chavez last name, he would've never been allowed to amass such a pro record without fighting anyone with a pulse.

Then him beating pros who have 2 or 3 times experience should not be that bad, don't you think? Here we have an unexperienced young guy beating the well-experienced ones. I find it a bit silly too to have him headline PPV events but hey, he has the Chavez last name and that seems to sell unfortunately.

[Violent Demise]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

I'm not saying Chavez is no good... I'm just saying he's not as good as his bloated record would indicate. Give me a 25-1 or 30-2 fighter who's faced the best competition out there... instead of a coddled 45-0-1 fighter, who's being spoon-fed carefully picked opponents..... any day of the week.

He's technically an amateur (since he has no amateur experience what so ever) facing guys who have 2 or 3 times his experience. I wonder if people would think different about him if he didn't have Chavez as his last name.

If he's technically an amateur, he shouldn't have a 45-0-1 record. It's misleading. It's insulting to those boxers who had an extensive amateur career and then turned pro. You don't see anybody adding their amateur victories to their pro record do you? It's like comparing apples and oranges. And really..... if he didn't have the Chavez last name, he would've never been allowed to amass such a pro record without fighting anyone with a pulse.

Come the fuck on. Chavez name ain't got shit to do with it. That shit is done all the time in the South and Mid-West. They do it in other countries as well.

[TitoFan]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

I'm not saying Chavez is no good... I'm just saying he's not as good as his bloated record would indicate. Give me a 25-1 or 30-2 fighter who's faced the best competition out there... instead of a coddled 45-0-1 fighter, who's being spoon-fed carefully picked opponents..... any day of the week.

He's technically an amateur (since he has no amateur experience what so ever) facing guys who have 2 or 3 times his experience. I wonder if people would think different about him if he didn't have Chavez as his last name.

If he's technically an amateur, he shouldn't have a 45-0-1 record. It's misleading. It's insulting to those boxers who had an extensive amateur career and then turned pro. You don't see anybody adding their amateur victories to their pro record do you? It's like comparing apples and oranges. And really..... if he didn't have the Chavez last name, he would've never been allowed to amass such a pro record without fighting anyone with a pulse.

Come the fuck on. Chavez name ain't got shit to do with it. That shit is done all the time in the South and Mid-West. They do it in other countries as well.

Fascinating. It's always interesting to find out how boxing records are handled in other parts of the boxing world. Here in Puerto Rico, and very likely in other boxing rich places like Philly and other places along the eastern seaboard, you gotta have the quality opponents to go along with the gaudy record. Otherwise, it don't mean shit.

[Rantcatrat]

Tito, I disagree with VD all the time, but I have to admit, Chavez is materializing into a real fighter. Consdering he's already beat Rubio and Zbik (close fight), if he beats Lee, he has better wins than anyone at middleweight other than Sturm and Martinez. Fine, it's a weak division, I don't necessarily agree with it, but for the sake of argument, let's say it is. Still, Chavez Jr. is doing what he can in his division. It's tough to be too upset with that.

[Master]

Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".

Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.

C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.

Then this fight would be fair since both guys are no good, don't you think?

I'm not saying Chavez is no good... I'm just saying he's not as good as his bloated record would indicate. Give me a 25-1 or 30-2 fighter who's faced the best competition out there... instead of a coddled 45-0-1 fighter, who's being spoon-fed carefully picked opponents..... any day of the week.

He's technically an amateur (since he has no amateur experience what so ever) facing guys who have 2 or 3 times his experience. I wonder if people would think different about him if he didn't have Chavez as his last name.

Carrying his dads name is a burden because he will never ever live up to that legendary status. Junior is an OK fighter that is all.