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[El Kabong]

Bullshit he could, Lyle. Five years ago sure, but he can't fight anyone that way anymore and it's precisely why Floyd will toy with him.

Are you fucking kidding me Cotto would massacre Victor Ortiz!!! If they fight at any point in time I've got a sig bet all over that one!!! Victor Ortiz....shiiiiit you musta' lost your damn mind! Cotto would also handle Berto easily.

[p4pking]

Bullshit he could, Lyle. Five years ago sure, but he can't fight anyone that way anymore and it's precisely why Floyd will toy with him.

Are you fucking kidding me Cotto would massacre Victor Ortiz!!! If they fight at any point in time I've got a sig bet all over that one!!! Victor Ortiz....shiiiiit you musta' lost your damn mind! Cotto would also handle Berto easily.

I didn't say Cotto couldn't beat Victor, at least realize what part of your post I was responding to. He would most likely be able to outbox him, but IF he decided to swarm and go toe to toe with him(which would be very stupid and something he hasn't done for several years) I feel Ortiz would probably stop him. You seem to think Cotto is still near peak form and durable, I wholeheartedly disagree here that's all. I think he's actually the least dangerous opponent Floyd will have faced since Marquez, who Cotto would be much better off fighting incidently.

[El Kabong]

Bullshit he could, Lyle. Five years ago sure, but he can't fight anyone that way anymore and it's precisely why Floyd will toy with him.

Are you fucking kidding me Cotto would massacre Victor Ortiz!!! If they fight at any point in time I've got a sig bet all over that one!!! Victor Ortiz....shiiiiit you musta' lost your damn mind! Cotto would also handle Berto easily.

I didn't say Cotto couldn't beat Victor, at least realize what part of your post I was responding to. He would most likely be able to outbox him, but IF he decided to swarm and go toe to toe with him(which would be very stupid and something he hasn't done for several years) I feel Ortiz would probably stop him. You seem to think Cotto is still near peak form and durable, I wholeheartedly disagree here that's all. I think he's actually the least dangerous opponent Floyd will have faced since Marquez, who Cotto would be much better off fighting incidently.

Cotto is as good as he ever was, he's lost 2 fights 1 to a cheater and 1 to one of the best P4P fighters out there today. I don't get this whole "Cotto is washed up" bullshit, Miguel is a solid boxer, he's in his prime years still (as can be evidenced by his holding THE 154 title), and he's given no reason for you to think he's washed up. He's been in some battles sure, but he hasn't looked the worse for wear due to them.

As for Ortiz, I've never been sold on the guy as a BOXER....as a fighter meh, he's ok, I mean he doesn't have heart like Cotto has and that right there is one of the reasons Cotto would demolish him. PLUS Victor hasn't fought at 154....ever. Victor still has trouble muscling up on welterweights why would he be able to do anything to Cotto? And Cotto has a much better jaw than Ortiz does, that's a fact. Cotto would also beat Marquez...why? Because Cotto is too big and can box well enough to beat JMM.


"The least dangerous opponent Floyd will have faced since Marquez"....so Marquez, Mosley, & Ortiz were more dangerous That's ridiculous....but hey, you believe what you want, but know Cotto will come to fight and he won't punk out like Ortiz did.

[p4pking]

I think you saying he's given no reason to show he is on the slide is a lot more ridiculous. Or to state that Cotto clearly beats Marquez because of his boxing skills, when the only common opponent they've shared knocked Miguel out and lost to Marquez. How does his having a strap now serve as evidence of his prime as opposed to how he looked in the fights? Have you gone blind from typing so much? Miguel approaches every single second in the ring differently since Margarito beat him imo, to say he merely lost the two fights he did is silly. They were brutal beatings that clearly rattled his confidence. To me his legs don't look nearly as good as they used to either but I'm not going to preach that as I don't think it would've ever been enough. He had to muster every ounce of skill to scrape by Clottey, yet to you it's a dead cert that his skills would see him past Ortiz and Marquez, when a beat down Mayorga gave him a lot to think about. He didn't even look good against Yuri Foreman if you ask me. Also, I meant that I consider him the least dangerous to Floyd before the fight not in hindsight, which should be fairly obvious. Lots of people were confident that Mosley and Marquez were live dogs at the time, this is no different to me.

[Master]

Floyd is firm favourite but Cotto may win some rounds early. Normally Floyd adjusts his style if it is not working and I can see his fast right hands countering the left hook and jab of Cotto. Also Floyd will use his uppercut.

Miguel has to feint and set traps for Floyd to fall into. Cotto needs to have a high tempo to the fight, punches in bunches and come at angles, body and head and use his experience at the weight. He needs to fight smarter not harder. Win a round at a time. I really hope he pulls this out the bag and wins enough rounds to get the decision.

[El Kabong]

Styles make fights and Cotto's style would be good vs Marquez and great vs Ortiz and it should cause Floyd trouble. Pac fought a weight drained trainerless Cotto and Miguel still went far in the fight. Clottey is a very durable fighter, similar to Margarito in his ability to take a punch. Given that Cotto was hurting himself to make 147 & had just 1 fight between Clottey and the Margarito match sure he looked bad and it's understandable, but he won the fight. How many rounds did Cotto lose to Yuri? 2-3 if that much? He stopped him didn't he?

I'm not certain Cotto will beat Floyd, I do expect him to give Floyd trouble though at least for the first half of the fight, and I say that because Cotto is diverse and Floyd is a great problem solver in the ring and so it may take time for Cotto to use up his tricks and Floyd to counter them.

I AM however certain Cotto would destroy Ortiz, there's 0 doubt in my mind he would. Vic has never fought at 154, he faltered vs Maidana and drew vs Petterson and I'm sorry Miguel Cotto is hands down better than those guys.

[p4pking]

I think Cotto vs Marquez would be an absolute war, neither of those guys styles are "good" against the other imo. Cotto is indeed a damn fine boxer but I really doubt he is smart or cagey enough to keep Marquez on the outside all night, there would be fireworks. Clottey also had alot more going for him than being durable against Cotto, that was tit for tat the whole way through until he predictably finished terribly. I think Yuri Foreman kind of sucks so that ones a moot point. Fact is, Cotto hasn't fought nearly the kind of opponent he was faced with before and during the first Margarito fight, and Floyd is a hell of a step up from anyone in the sport right now around the weight. I just don't see where he draws any real game plan from with the way he has been fighting since his defeats. Trying to do ANYTHING off the backfoot will have him taking a real beating imo.

[El Kabong]

Using your rational on how Cotto did vs Pac who fought JMM who got torn up by PBF....PBF fought tooth & nail vs Judah who got punished and stopped by Cotto. Cotto has always been called slow, his hands were slower than Shane's and slower than Zab's and Cotto still won both of those fights pretty handily.

I respect Floyd for taking this fight, it's far tougher for him than Victor Ortiz....where the hell did that fight come from? Jesus!

As far as what Cotto does after this fight win or lose I figure he'll go after big money fights because he's a fan favorite. I hope Berto or Ortiz move up and fight him I think those would be great fights.