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Ortiz, who was making the first defense of the belt he won via decision in a fight of the year candidate with Andre Berto in April, stepped onto the unofficial HBO fight-night scale at 164 pounds. Mayweather was 150 pounds.

The above is from an espn article.

I remember when Floyd fought de la hoya, a boxing writer (don't remember which) said that Floyd needed rocks in his pockets to get his weight up (a joke, but a well made point).

Floyd is one of the few guys that could still make 147 with same day weigh ins.

3 things about weight:
1-Cotto will weigh less than Ortiz did; Cotto weighs in around 152 for many of his junior middle fights and he honestly is a smaller guy that Ortiz. Ortiz is still young enough and crazy enough to not eat and dehydrate the hell out of himself to make 147. He's bigger than Cotto.
2-Ortiz's size and weight advantage meant little
3-Ortiz only weighed a few pounds less than what Sergio Martinez weighs when he gets into the ring. Why? Ortiz really is the same size as most junior middles and Martinez is really still a junior middle.
Sergio Martinez if my memory serves me well comes in at 170 pounds fight night in a middleweight fight. That is a huge junior middle IMO.
Martinez weighed 165 on unofficial scale against Barker. 1 pound more than Ortiz against Mayweather. No unofficial scale for Macklin fight.

Margarito against Pac-165 on unofficial scale.
Canelo vs Matt Hatton- Canelo 165
Kirkland vs Molina- Kirkland was 174

165 is a reasonable number when they get in the ring for many junior welters.