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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    Cotto has two chances. Slim and none...and slim just left town.

    Cotto will not win a round.
    That's your take on it and that's fine, Mayweather has given us no reason to think he'll lose anytime soon, but stranger things have happened. Cotto is bigger & stronger than Marquez and he's more polished than Ortiz....I like his chances better than those guys. Cotto also boxes better than Mosley at this point in time. So yes I'm cheering for Cotto, but I understand he's an underdog.
    He's too slow and he's not at his best weight class. Moreover, I'm not convinced Cotto has the hunger that it appeared he had in previous years. Margarito may have zapped him of it.
    Now you're just clutching at straws. You have zero basis for the statements you just made - Lyle debunked your speed argument, the weight class issue..well he obviously feels its where he needs to be right now or would be at 147. Then the whole, "he's not hungry". Really? You don't think he's hungry against Floyd?? Nonsense imo

    Slim :

    1+2 - I dont have a problem with what you choose to film. Thats just an aside - it's your over emotional, yes irrational posting towards Floyd Mayweather. I dont think anybody overates him. He is what he is. Probably the best in our era who is still an active fighter. Another I'm sure that will be appreciated more when he's gone although if he and Pac fail to fight each other, it will slightly taint their legacy.
    You start having a fit about how people are on his nuts ane he cherry picks blah blah. Every champion has at some point cherry picked and if we look back neutrally Floyd is nowhere near one of the worst offenders IMO it's how far ahead in skills he is that annoys people.

    3+4 There was a HUGE clamour for MAyweather Mosley! Especiallg after the Margarito win, the noise about how Floyd is scared of Shane got louder. Nobody thought Floyd would sign for that fight but to a lot of peoples surprise, he did. Not to pick on him but Miles/Gandalf is one I distictly remember giving him respect for doing so and post-fight gave him shit for fighting a "shot mosley". I have the memory of an elephant

    Well done for having a civilised debate though.

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    Default Re: Cotto"s only HOPE to wın ıs by KO FAST

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post

    Cotto has two chances. Slim and none...and slim just left town.

    Cotto will not win a round.
    That's your take on it and that's fine, Mayweather has given us no reason to think he'll lose anytime soon, but stranger things have happened. Cotto is bigger & stronger than Marquez and he's more polished than Ortiz....I like his chances better than those guys. Cotto also boxes better than Mosley at this point in time. So yes I'm cheering for Cotto, but I understand he's an underdog.
    He's too slow and he's not at his best weight class. Moreover, I'm not convinced Cotto has the hunger that it appeared he had in previous years. Margarito may have zapped him of it.
    Now you're just clutching at straws. You have zero basis for the statements you just made - Lyle debunked your speed argument, the weight class issue..well he obviously feels its where he needs to be right now or would be at 147. Then the whole, "he's not hungry". Really? You don't think he's hungry against Floyd?? Nonsense imo
    Where I'm coming from is that pre-Margarito, Cotto was a different fighter. Since then he seems more fragile. I have no basis for it. Even with any perceived added fragility, he's still a very capable fighter.

    I wrote a lengthy post with the reasons I thought Cotto had little shot in this fight. I won't repeat them again. I also prefaced that post by saying that I view Cotto as a borderline-hall of famer, and greatly admire hiis boxing skills and career. So, in no way, do I mean to disparage the Puerto Rican warrior. I just think he's got an unsurmountable hill to climb in fighting Pretty Boy.

    With regard to weight, in my estimation, Cotto is at 154 because he doesn't want to deal with cutting the extra weight. With his cache, it is something he has the power to do. It's not because he is more effective at 154. His choice of competition at 154 bares that out. In further support is that at 140 and 147, he fought everyone possible. Why do you think he is better at 154?

    Also, remember pre-Ortiz and pre-Marquez 3, I was one of the only posters to view the Ortiz fight as a mismatch and also that in no way was Marquez getting schooled by Pacquiao because he has Pacquiao's number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Now you're just clutching at straws. You have zero basis for the statements you just made - Lyle debunked your speed argument, the weight class issue..well he obviously feels its where he needs to be right now or would be at 147. Then the whole, "he's not hungry". Really? You don't think he's hungry against Floyd?? Nonsense imo

    Slim :

    1+2 - I dont have a problem with what you choose to film. Thats just an aside - it's your over emotional, yes irrational posting towards Floyd Mayweather. I dont think anybody overates him. He is what he is. Probably the best in our era who is still an active fighter. Another I'm sure that will be appreciated more when he's gone although if he and Pac fail to fight each other, it will slightly taint their legacy.
    You start having a fit about how people are on his nuts ane he cherry picks blah blah. Every champion has at some point cherry picked and if we look back neutrally Floyd is nowhere near one of the worst offenders IMO it's how far ahead in skills he is that annoys people.

    3+4 There was a HUGE clamour for MAyweather Mosley! Especiallg after the Margarito win, the noise about how Floyd is scared of Shane got louder. Nobody thought Floyd would sign for that fight but to a lot of peoples surprise, he did. Not to pick on him but Miles/Gandalf is one I distictly remember giving him respect for doing so and post-fight gave him shit for fighting a "shot mosley". I have the memory of an elephant

    Well done for having a civilised debate though.
    I understand where you're coming from. I get a bit more emotional about certain fighters than I should. Personally, him not fighting the best wouldn't have bothered me so much if he didn't talk as much as he did. I just need to stop paying attention to what he does outside of the ring.

    I'm often too quick to insult somebody when I don't agree with them. It's a habit of mine. But I try and fix my mistakes when the person I insult turns out to not deserve it. I guess I usually expect them to prove my opinion on them wrong.

    And you have. So, uh... I'm sorry for being a presumptuous dickhead.

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    Default Re: Cotto"s only HOPE to wın ıs by KO FAST

    I think Cotto keeps it close for a few rounds but then Mayweather pulls away and wins easily on points.

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    Default Re: Cotto"s only HOPE to wın ıs by KO FAST

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Cotto keeps it close for a few rounds but then Mayweather pulls away and wins easily on points.
    That is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Cotto keeps it close for a few rounds but then Mayweather pulls away and wins easily on points.
    That is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.
    Cotto is a more well rounded boxer than Ricky ever was, plus he's fighting at a good weight for him (unlike when Ricky fought Floyd at 147). I just think Cotto will give Floyd a very difficult fight.

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    Default Re: Cotto"s only HOPE to wın ıs by KO FAST

    For the last time, his being a well rounded boxer is not a positive going into this fight! If anything his only chance is to try and fight like Hatton did.

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    Default Re: Cotto"s only HOPE to wın ıs by KO FAST

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Cotto keeps it close for a few rounds but then Mayweather pulls away and wins easily on points.
    That is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.
    I think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Cotto keeps it close for a few rounds but then Mayweather pulls away and wins easily on points.
    That is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.
    I think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.
    You're a complete retard. That is all.

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