Haye v Chisora will happen after all.

[Fenster]

TitoFan,

1. Your "double-standard" charge was aimed at me? You must have me confused with someone else. Since when did I ever insult fighters? Since when did I not like Cotto? I love nor hate anyone. However, I have respect for every world-class fighter regardless of their personality. If you think making a factual statement like "Cotto got knocked out by Pac" is hating or insulting then you need serious help. Trust me.

2. It upsets you that Haye trash-talks but doesn't back it up? OK. Trash-talk doesn't bother me. It just sells fights. I laugh or totally disregard it and it has no bearing on who I believe will win a particular fight.

3. You thought the Haye-Wlad fight was a disgrace? I thought Haye would be pretty cautious because of his performance against Valuev. So I wasn't surprised by his tactics. I advised people that Wlad was overpriced and a very good bet.

4. Lyle couldn't let Haye fans "have it" because a) he made a million posts telling everyone Wlad would be exciting before scoring a KO and b) hardly ANYONE on this site picked Haye to win.

5. "You don't lose?" I didn't even know it was a competition. I just give my views on stuff. Nothing more, nothing less. Fact.

[p4pking]

You both lose. FACT.

[Dia bando]

The paper's are at it again, you swear it was a fight to the death buy 2 mass murders the political correct
A holes set a example for the children. So what I want to see this fight I really don't give a shit what they
have done. There I have had my say I'm going to lay down and take a tablet.

[Fenster]

You both lose. FACT.

Nothing wrong with a loss.

It's how you comeback that matters.

All the greats lose.

Boxer cliches. Never ending same shit over and over again.

[p4pking]

That's all just your opinion Fenster, lets deal with facts ok. You can't possibly expect to climb back into a proper standing with that kind of non effort, you're like the David Haye of posters.

[Fenster]

That's all just your opinion Fenster, lets deal with facts ok. You can't possibly expect to climb back into a proper standing with that kind of non effort, you're like the David Haye of posters.

Sorry my friend.. I honestly have no idea what you mean?

If you mean the Haye comeback - then I doubt there's a person on earth that thinks the winner of Chisora-Haye has any standing in world boxing. It's just a fight that the British public will buy and make shitloads of dough (although the winner will undoubtedly be promoted back to "world" title level).

If you were talking about me - I have no idea what my non-effort was or why i'm David Haye like?

I'm more like the In-Jin Chi of Saddo's. Bit crude but relentless and unstoppable. Fact.

[TitoFan]

TitoFan,

1. Your "double-standard" charge was aimed at me? You must have me confused with someone else. Since when did I ever insult fighters? Since when did I not like Cotto? I love nor hate anyone. However, I have respect for every world-class fighter regardless of their personality. If you think making a factual statement like "Cotto got knocked out by Pac" is hating or insulting then you need serious help. Trust me.

None of this changes the fact that you would criticize any fighter, other than a personal favorite (like Haye), for what Haye did against Wlad. This is what's normally known as a double-standard. Nothing to be ashamed of. Lots of people have them.

2. It upsets you that Haye trash-talks but doesn't back it up? OK. Trash-talk doesn't bother me. It just sells fights. I laugh or totally disregard it and it has no bearing on who I believe will win a particular fight.

Yes it does upset me (well, not really 'cause again... I didn't pay for the fight) so I guess we'll just agree to disagree. You disregard trash talk of Haye's magnitude and could care less how he actually fought in the ring. I think of Haye as a cross between a used car salesman and a politician... selling outright lies just to sell tickets, when he has no intention on following up on his pre-fight talk.

3. You thought the Haye-Wlad fight was a disgrace? I thought Haye would be pretty cautious because of his performance against Valuev. So I wasn't surprised by his tactics. I advised people that Wlad was overpriced and a very good bet.

Again, we'll agree to disagree. Your own bar is set pretty low as far as boxing is concerned, I guess. You'll watch anything, and a performance such as Haye's doesn't bother you. You must've REALLY loved Bruce Seldon's fight against Mike Tyson.

4. Lyle couldn't let Haye fans "have it" because a) he made a million posts telling everyone Wlad would be exciting before scoring a KO and b) hardly ANYONE on this site picked Haye to win.

I won't get into this particular point.

5. "You don't lose?" I didn't even know it was a competition. I just give my views on stuff. Nothing more, nothing less. Fact.

Your signature line looks foolish more often than not. Just trying to be constructive here. It would be more effective if the stuff you write were in fact, well..... FACT. And by "you don't lose", I don't mean a competition. If I must explain it to you, I'm merely referring to the FACT that you never accept being wrong, even when you are.

(See above)

[ross]

Yes it does upset me (well, not really 'cause again... I didn't pay for the fight) so I guess we'll just agree to disagree. You disregard trash talk of Haye's magnitude and could care less how he actually fought in the ring. I think of Haye as a cross between a used car salesman and a politician... selling outright lies just to sell tickets, when he has no intention on following up on his pre-fight talk.

I have to point this out as it irritates me, I see it all the time from Non British posters but the phrase is "couldn't care less" as in you care so little about it that you could not care any less about it. To say you could care less means that you must care a little about it.

I wont be the only person that this bugs

[Althugz]

Right, who is the official ticket outlet for this farcical boxing match that I am considering attending? All I get when I search are the outlets that wanna sell you face value tickets for way above cost price..and I'm already grumpy about the price of face value tickets..is the West Ham box office selling them officially?

[Master]

Right, who is the official ticket outlet for this farcical boxing match that I am considering attending? All I get when I search are the outlets that wanna sell you face value tickets for way above cost price..and I'm already grumpy about the price of face value tickets..is the West Ham box office selling them officially?

Get Box Nation.

[Fenster]

TitoFan,

1. Your "double-standard" charge was aimed at me? You must have me confused with someone else. Since when did I ever insult fighters? Since when did I not like Cotto? I love nor hate anyone. However, I have respect for every world-class fighter regardless of their personality. If you think making a factual statement like "Cotto got knocked out by Pac" is hating or insulting then you need serious help. Trust me.

None of this changes the fact that you would criticize any fighter, other than a personal favorite (like Haye), for what Haye did against Wlad. This is what's normally known as a double-standard. Nothing to be ashamed of. Lots of people have them.

2. It upsets you that Haye trash-talks but doesn't back it up? OK. Trash-talk doesn't bother me. It just sells fights. I laugh or totally disregard it and it has no bearing on who I believe will win a particular fight.

Yes it does upset me (well, not really 'cause again... I didn't pay for the fight) so I guess we'll just agree to disagree. You disregard trash talk of Haye's magnitude and could care less how he actually fought in the ring. I think of Haye as a cross between a used car salesman and a politician... selling outright lies just to sell tickets, when he has no intention on following up on his pre-fight talk.

3. You thought the Haye-Wlad fight was a disgrace? I thought Haye would be pretty cautious because of his performance against Valuev. So I wasn't surprised by his tactics. I advised people that Wlad was overpriced and a very good bet.

Again, we'll agree to disagree. Your own bar is set pretty low as far as boxing is concerned, I guess. You'll watch anything, and a performance such as Haye's doesn't bother you. You must've REALLY loved Bruce Seldon's fight against Mike Tyson.

4. Lyle couldn't let Haye fans "have it" because a) he made a million posts telling everyone Wlad would be exciting before scoring a KO and b) hardly ANYONE on this site picked Haye to win.

I won't get into this particular point.

5. "You don't lose?" I didn't even know it was a competition. I just give my views on stuff. Nothing more, nothing less. Fact.

Your signature line looks foolish more often than not. Just trying to be constructive here. It would be more effective if the stuff you write were in fact, well..... FACT. And by "you don't lose", I don't mean a competition. If I must explain it to you, I'm merely referring to the FACT that you never accept being wrong, even when you are.

(See above)

1. Stop assuming everyone thinks like you. Why would I criticise someone for doing what I expected? That's ridiculous. I am not emotionally attached to any fighter. Whether they are the nastiest or nicest person on earth it means nothing to me, I judge them soley on their ring exploits.

2, 3 and 4. You get upset by trash-talk and have far higher standards than me. Good for you.

5. Thanks for the advice. However, I'm gonna let you into a secret - signing off with "fact" when it is blatantly opinion is a long running joke. It's something called humour. I'm never the one that looks foolish. Fact.

[TitoFan]

TitoFan,

1. Your "double-standard" charge was aimed at me? You must have me confused with someone else. Since when did I ever insult fighters? Since when did I not like Cotto? I love nor hate anyone. However, I have respect for every world-class fighter regardless of their personality. If you think making a factual statement like "Cotto got knocked out by Pac" is hating or insulting then you need serious help. Trust me.

None of this changes the fact that you would criticize any fighter, other than a personal favorite (like Haye), for what Haye did against Wlad. This is what's normally known as a double-standard. Nothing to be ashamed of. Lots of people have them.

2. It upsets you that Haye trash-talks but doesn't back it up? OK. Trash-talk doesn't bother me. It just sells fights. I laugh or totally disregard it and it has no bearing on who I believe will win a particular fight.

Yes it does upset me (well, not really 'cause again... I didn't pay for the fight) so I guess we'll just agree to disagree. You disregard trash talk of Haye's magnitude and could care less how he actually fought in the ring. I think of Haye as a cross between a used car salesman and a politician... selling outright lies just to sell tickets, when he has no intention on following up on his pre-fight talk.

3. You thought the Haye-Wlad fight was a disgrace? I thought Haye would be pretty cautious because of his performance against Valuev. So I wasn't surprised by his tactics. I advised people that Wlad was overpriced and a very good bet.

Again, we'll agree to disagree. Your own bar is set pretty low as far as boxing is concerned, I guess. You'll watch anything, and a performance such as Haye's doesn't bother you. You must've REALLY loved Bruce Seldon's fight against Mike Tyson.

4. Lyle couldn't let Haye fans "have it" because a) he made a million posts telling everyone Wlad would be exciting before scoring a KO and b) hardly ANYONE on this site picked Haye to win.

I won't get into this particular point.

5. "You don't lose?" I didn't even know it was a competition. I just give my views on stuff. Nothing more, nothing less. Fact.

Your signature line looks foolish more often than not. Just trying to be constructive here. It would be more effective if the stuff you write were in fact, well..... FACT. And by "you don't lose", I don't mean a competition. If I must explain it to you, I'm merely referring to the FACT that you never accept being wrong, even when you are.

(See above)

1. Stop assuming everyone thinks like you. Why would I criticise someone for doing what I expected? That's ridiculous. I am not emotionally attached to any fighter. Whether they are the nastiest or nicest person on earth it means nothing to me, I judge them soley on their ring exploits.

2, 3 and 4. You get upset by trash-talk and have far higher standards than me. Good for you.

5. Thanks for the advice. However, I'm gonna let you into a secret - signing off with "fact" when it is blatantly opinion is a long running joke. It's something called humour. I'm never the one that looks foolish. Fact.

Apology accepted.




(Anyway, for the 3rd time in a row you refuse to address the double-standard issue. It's ok... I'll take that as conceding the point. And for the record, I am NOT upset by trash-talk. I just expect it to be backed up in the ring, especially in fights that I've paid to see. But then, that's just me.)

[Fenster]

TitoFan,

1. Your "double-standard" charge was aimed at me? You must have me confused with someone else. Since when did I ever insult fighters? Since when did I not like Cotto? I love nor hate anyone. However, I have respect for every world-class fighter regardless of their personality. If you think making a factual statement like "Cotto got knocked out by Pac" is hating or insulting then you need serious help. Trust me.

None of this changes the fact that you would criticize any fighter, other than a personal favorite (like Haye), for what Haye did against Wlad. This is what's normally known as a double-standard. Nothing to be ashamed of. Lots of people have them.

2. It upsets you that Haye trash-talks but doesn't back it up? OK. Trash-talk doesn't bother me. It just sells fights. I laugh or totally disregard it and it has no bearing on who I believe will win a particular fight.

Yes it does upset me (well, not really 'cause again... I didn't pay for the fight) so I guess we'll just agree to disagree. You disregard trash talk of Haye's magnitude and could care less how he actually fought in the ring. I think of Haye as a cross between a used car salesman and a politician... selling outright lies just to sell tickets, when he has no intention on following up on his pre-fight talk.

3. You thought the Haye-Wlad fight was a disgrace? I thought Haye would be pretty cautious because of his performance against Valuev. So I wasn't surprised by his tactics. I advised people that Wlad was overpriced and a very good bet.

Again, we'll agree to disagree. Your own bar is set pretty low as far as boxing is concerned, I guess. You'll watch anything, and a performance such as Haye's doesn't bother you. You must've REALLY loved Bruce Seldon's fight against Mike Tyson.

4. Lyle couldn't let Haye fans "have it" because a) he made a million posts telling everyone Wlad would be exciting before scoring a KO and b) hardly ANYONE on this site picked Haye to win.

I won't get into this particular point.

5. "You don't lose?" I didn't even know it was a competition. I just give my views on stuff. Nothing more, nothing less. Fact.

Your signature line looks foolish more often than not. Just trying to be constructive here. It would be more effective if the stuff you write were in fact, well..... FACT. And by "you don't lose", I don't mean a competition. If I must explain it to you, I'm merely referring to the FACT that you never accept being wrong, even when you are.

(See above)

1. Stop assuming everyone thinks like you. Why would I criticise someone for doing what I expected? That's ridiculous. I am not emotionally attached to any fighter. Whether they are the nastiest or nicest person on earth it means nothing to me, I judge them soley on their ring exploits.

2, 3 and 4. You get upset by trash-talk and have far higher standards than me. Good for you.

5. Thanks for the advice. However, I'm gonna let you into a secret - signing off with "fact" when it is blatantly opinion is a long running joke. It's something called humour. I'm never the one that looks foolish. Fact.

Apology accepted.




(Anyway, for the 3rd time in a row you refuse to address the double-standard issue. It's ok... I'll take that as conceding the point. And for the record, I am NOT upset by trash-talk. I just expect it to be backed up in the ring, especially in fights that I've paid to see. But then, that's just me.)

1. I'm not refusing to address any issue. Show me specifically what you mean? I honestly have no idea what you're waffling about?

2. You've never bought a fight that didn't disappoint you. Good for you, champ.

[palmerq]

haye chisora is for the wba and wbo something belts I forget which, i guess this is the start of the haye wladimir rematch, wont be long before haye is the mandatory for the wba belt :S

[Master]

haye chisora is for the wba and wbo something belts I forget which, i guess this is the start of the haye wladimir rematch, wont be long before haye is the mandatory for the wba belt :S

But he will never be a WBC champion ever.