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Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
Pacquiao beats Cotto 10 times out of 10. He destroyed Cotto, beat him down to the point where Cotto went into full survival mode.

It had nothing to do with weight, or gameplans, or anything like that. Pacquiao punched harder, moved faster, and took a punch better than Cotto. The Cotto who fought Floyd doesn't beat Manny, he gets TKOd just like the 2009 version of Cotto did.

Cotto is one of my favorite fighters, but anyone suggesting that Cotto could beat Pacquiao has forgotten what their first fight looked like.
This.

You can imagine as many excuses as possible but it would never justify a reverse of that one-sided beating.

Oh no... it's you again.

Exactly just how do you "justify a reverse"? I realize English isn't my native language, so maybe there's something I missed there. C'mon dude... nobody's arguing the results of the first fight (so no need to add your signature "fact"). Cotto was TKO'ed. No ifs, ands, or buts. However, we ARE allowed to speculate as to the results of a rematch, are we not? And how else to speculate on the results, except by going back to the first fight and analyzing the factors that went into that fight. Again, we're not talking about excuses. Cotto didn't have a bad shoulder, he didn't have the flu... nothing like that. If you've cared to notice, I haven't even gone too much into the catchweight factor, 'cause I believe one or two pounds either way don't make much difference.

But in order to speculate on the results of a rematch, I have to look at the differences the fighters would have going into the rematch, as opposed to their first fight. In Cotto's case, the biggest thing is he actually has a trainer now. He went from his uncle to some "Joe Blow" who didn't have a clue about boxing. Of course that's Cotto's fault and Cotto's decision. So again... no excuse. But it does have a bearing on the result of the first fight. That's not an opinion... it's a fact. Would today's Cotto (with Pedro Diaz in his corner) beat Pacquiao in a rematch? I say "maybe". Would the result be the same as the first fight? I say "probably not".

Consider Pac's fight with Hatton, probably the most one-sided championship affair since Mike Tyson KO'ed Michael Spinks. Does the fact that Pac separated Hatton from his senses in the 2nd round mean he's an exponentially better fighter than Hatton? Obviously, he's much better. But had they had a rematch and Hatton had a different gameplan and training regimen..... isn't it conceivable that the result wouldn't have been quite as catastrophic? Well.... maybe that's a bad example. After all, I think Mike Tyson would've also KO'ed Spinks even quicker the 2nd time around.

Anyway, and excuse the rambling... I'm not arguing against the results of the 1st fight. I'm using factors from that fight and differences in Cotto now, to speculate as to the possible results of a 2nd fight. That's all I'm doing.

Peace, bro.